What’s your exit plan for the truck?

[Maxx]

A question for those that keep their vehicles after 8 years: If a module fails, third party mechanic tells you, they can remove disable/disconnect the module for $1K or replace it for $5K what would you do? Assuming in case of Pro, you have 1/6 power and range loss if you disable.

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[Athrun88]

A question for those that keep their vehicles after 8 years: If a module fails, third party mechanic tells you, they can remove disable/disconnect the module for $1K or replace it for $5K what would you do? Assuming in case of Pro, you have 1/6 power and range loss if you disable.

I think that's a great hypothetical question. Different for everyone, but if it was for me, I'd replace it for 5k. Rationale is that I would have saved way more than that over 8yrs in fuel and car would be paid off by then. Assuming the rest of the car is fine or in good working order, I'd replace the module.

 

[Ricks Lightning]

Here's what I just did.. bout a 23 pro brand new in May 2024. $0. Down $0. Interest for 60 months.. drove it 3 months and loved it so much I leased a 24 Flash.
Dealer was going to ding me for $15k on a trade in..so I kept it and only lost 5k that included tax and License.
The Flash I leased for 3 years. 1.1% was the best Ford was offering..

So in 3 years, it's not my problem..

Rick

 

[Hammick]

A question for those that keep their vehicles after 8 years: If a module fails, third party mechanic tells you, they can remove disable/disconnect the module for $1K or replace it for $5K what would you do? Assuming in case of Pro, you have 1/6 power and range loss if you disable.

I don't know for sure but I'm guessing the truck wouldn't work with a module removed. Voltage would be too low. At least that how it works on our off gird solar battery bank. Batteries are in series, not parallel.

 

[Highpi]

For me, it'll be "wheels fall off."

Thanks for all the input. I probably won't be in the wheels fall off camp, but maybe a good 10 years or so.

 

[Maquis]

My heirs will have to figure it out.

 

[John Becker]

Traded my 2022 in at 36,000 miles. Plan on doing the same at 3years or 36kmi with my 2024.

What prompted you to trade your 2022 for a 2024?

 

[John Becker]

Regardless of the vehicle, my general policy is to trade, sell, or give away (to one of my kids) after 5 years or 100,000 miles, whichever comes first.
The reality is that I wind up keeping them much longer.

 

[Monkey]

‘til the wheels fall off. Or until I’m ready for something new. Maybe sooner if it starts having issues or and then we’ll just have to see. I’m hoping that by the time I’m close to my 100k mile/ 8 year battery/drivetrain warranty and Ford extended plan that matches, there will be something on the market truly worthy of upgrading to. Like the upcoming T3 truck.

Unfortunately resale value on EVs is terrible, in part due to all the incentives on new, but also because the rapidly evolving tech that’s coming with them. I already accepted the fact that this truck will be worth very little in the next few years. So in reality I’m happy to keep it as long as it fits my needs and for the foreseeable future, it’s perfect.

 

[Lucky Larry]

i plan on keeping my lightning for 10 years or more.

 

[Tfarrell73]

I don't know for sure but I'm guessing the truck wouldn't work with a module removed. Voltage would be too low. At least that how it works on our off gird solar battery bank. Batteries are in series, not parallel.

I believe the modules are in parallel, the cells in each module are in series

 

[Mach Turtle]

I've usually kept vehicles a long time and have a 33 year old Toyota in the garage where the Lightning won't fit. However, battery technology is evolving very quickly. So my plan is to keep the truck 'til it's paid off in 5 years, then look at the state of the market and re-evaluate every year or two. Will T3 be on the road by then? It seems likely that We the People have put another speed bump in its path.

Who knows, maybe by the time the battery warranty runs out, there will be solid state batteries with much higher energy density than our LiNMCs, and aftermarket kits will be on the market...or some other way to keep an old buggy going.

At some point, there will have to be a battery swap industry with recycled or rebuilt batteries, turn in your core, just like lead-acids nowadays. Traction batteries have been lasting longer than most people expected, but they can't hold out forever. As long as there's still a free market, supply should rise to meet the demand.

 

[Zaptor]

Got two of them, keeping them forever. Even if I park them for newer, faster or sexier toys, these will continue to serve as massive backup batteries long after they can't be driven. No way you could buy this much house battery for the price, plus free truck.
Cheers
-Zap

 

[GoodSam]

I believe the modules are in parallel, the cells in each module are in series

I think both the SR & ER have 96 x ~4Volt cells are in series, #1-8 modules w/ 11 cells, & #9 module w/ 8 cells. 96x4 is 384Vdc.
Also, I think SR cells are made of 4 sub-cell "pouches" in parallel for 107.6kWh max, 98kWh useable; ER cells have 5 sub-cell "pouches" in parallel for 143.4kWh max, or 131kWh useable. [ see image of 143.4kWh battery here: https://www.f150lightningforum.com/...battery-capacity-to-135-kwh.18015/post-362124 ]
Unfortunately, 143.4/107.6 and 131/98 both are a 1.33 ratio or 33% increase in capacity which does not match a 5/4 pouch ratio that would give a 25% higher capacity. Also 320/240 miles is 1.33 ratio.

Another option is @Ford Senior Master stated that the SR had 9 modules of 40 sub-cell pouches or 10 cells each. That is only 90 cells x ~4Vdc = 360Vdc, and 107.6kWh/90cells = 1.19555kWh capacity each cell. ER, 8 modules of 55 pouches or 11 cells + 1 of 40 pouches or 8 cells, is 143.4/96cells = 1.49375kW capacity each cell. 1.49375/1.19555 = 1.25 ratio. [see his statement & module numbering: https://www.f150lightningforum.com/...-150-lightning-battery-pack.11859/post-248939 ]


I wish someone had definite answers to clarify the high voltage battery constructions...just because I am curious.

 

[Randall Stephens]

I told the guy I just sold my 95 ranger to I’d sell him my lightning in 25 years.

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