Let's talk Tesla adapters (needs and available now) I need the basics....

[derm]

Let's not talk about the promises of the future.

I'm trying to understand the options available now locally for a road trip and in a bind. (I have a SR Lariat)

Are the "Tesla to J1772 charging adapters" $80-$160 Only:

1. if you were visiting a friends house that has a Tesla wall Charger
2. (AND)
3. would NOT work at a Tesla commercial charging spot (Like Wawa)

Are the "Tesla to J1772 (TeslaTap Mini) " $300-$400 needed for:

1. A Tesla commercial charging spot (Like Wawa)?
2. I assume a 60amp (would give me ~30Miles/Per hour charge) 80amp ~40m/hr
3. What is required to use a Tesla Charge location at this time?
   1. Tesla app account?
   2. Would this work at all Tesla charging locations?

Always appreciate the help. Thanks

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[hturnerfamily]

DC Fast Charging at any 'Tesla Supercharger' is NOT going to happen, no matter WHAT adapter you may have, which, actually, aren't even available yet for any CCS to Tesla Supercharger, anyway.

Any 'J1772' adapter, from your Truck to a Tesla NACS station, might work, as long as you have the Tesla app, at Level 2 Tesla stations, such as hotels, etc, IF it requires any type of payment. Of course, you probably don't need any app at someone's home charger.

I have no idea what 'wawa' means.

With 27,000+ miles, I don't have any of these adapters, and don't need them... I don't use any 'Tesla' chargers, of any sort. In the future, FORD will already be sending you a NACS adapter, in the very rare and unlikely event you ever need to actually use a Tesla Supercharger, as a backup option to any local CCS stations. It 'could' happen, but it's still unlikely, even for those who currently think that this is some new 'great' option for the future - I will doubt you will see any CCS vehicles using a Tesla Supercharger if there are any CCS stations in the nearby area. Sure, the thought of having the ability to possibly use a Supercharger is somewhat alluring, but I think it will still be a rare event for any CCS vehicle, especially since the price will be MUCH higher than any other option, and the speed will be MUCH slower than anywhere else...

now, in several years, when the DC Fast Charger companies like EA and CP and EVgo start integrating NACS options at their new and current charge stations, you'll have the option to use EITHER type of plug, with your NACS adapter, if your 'new' Lightning comes with NACS starting in 2025. Either way, we'll already have a NACS adapter from Ford by the time this comes to fruition, and new vehicles with NACS won't need any adapter, except in the unlikely event they encounter a DC Fast Charger that has yet to be upgraded/retrofit with NACS...

 

[tls]

None of these adapters work at what you're calling "a Tesla commercial charge spot"./ (A DC fast charger).

The TeslaTap adapters cost more because they're the name brand, they're better made, and they drove their only reputable competitor (QC) out of the market.

The difference in price between models for the reputable brands (possibly just TeslaTap at this point unfortunately) is because of amperage rating. I would not buy an adapter rated for less than 80A for use with an ER Lightning and honestly I consider all the <80A adapters of this type borderline dangerous, because there are still a lot of 80A Gen1 and Gen2 Tesla wall chargers out there and if you use one of these adapters to plug an 80A capable vehicle (Lightning) into an 80A capable charger (Gen1 or Gen2 Tesla wall charger) they can't tell there is an adapter in the middle rated for only 48A and they may melt it, damage the charger cable, or damage your charge port. Not cool. If you have an SR Lightning, one of the 48A rated adapters is probably OK but if I owned one I would stick labels all over it saying "DO NOT CONNECT TO 80A CAPABLE VEHICLE" and I'd still be not super happy about it.

One adapter to avoid, sadly, is the 80A Hansshow adapter which looks just like the TeslaTap but costs about $100. I bought a number of these and was quite happy with them until I realized they are not actually rainproof. There is a seam on the interior where the Tesla charge cable bottoms out, and in heavy rain, water *will* get in, accumulate inside, and short out the adapter. Hansshow has refused to provide tech support or a replacement unless I call them by WhatsApp, which I don't use. I'd stay away. I'm actually considering reporting this product to the CPSC as unsafe - sure, the car and charger have a lot of protection for line-to-ground shorts but a line-to-line short on a 100A circuit is no joke and enough water accumulating in a charging adapter might be able to cause that. Ugh.

 

[Maquis]

To put it simply, current adapters are only for L2 AC charging. You can’t use a Tesla Supercharger with an adapter.

Unless your travel takes you to places where there are no J1772 L2 chargers (only Tesla), an adapter is a waste of money.

I purchased a TeslaTap 2-1/2 years ago thinking I’d need it for travel, but I’ve used it exactly once and that was just to make sure it worked.

Also, the adapter doesn’t determine the charge rate. If you use an adapter rated less than the EVSE, it will melt.

 

[Webbo85]

So I know what Wawa is! And as stated above, you can't use a DC Fast Charger at a Wawa (or anywhere) with one of these adapters.

I actually purchased an 80A adapter from A2Z EV, and have used it at least 6 times to date with no issue. I have a free charger that give 16kwh up by my mountain house that I'll use occasionally when I'm up there. A2Z is a canadian company (sure the adapter is made oversees) but the adapter has CE certification and is less than half the cost of the Tesla Tap.

NACS (Tesla) To J1772 - Up to 80A - 20kW - A2Z Stellar Plug - Charge A – A2Z EV (a2zevshop.com)

 

[RickLightning]

I have no idea what 'wawa' means.

OMG! WFT! LOL!

WaWa is heaven.

 

[RickLightning]

To put it simply, current adapters are only for L2 AC charging. You can’t use a Tesla Supercharger with an adapter.

Unless your travel takes you to places where there are no J1772 L2 chargers (only Tesla), an adapter is a waste of money.

I purchased a TeslaTap 2-1/2 years ago thinking I’d need it for travel, but I’ve used it exactly once and that was just to make sure it worked.

Also, the adapter doesn’t determine the charge rate. If you use an adapter rated less than the EVSE, it will melt.

This ^^^

Did exactly the same, and tested it. Never used it yet. Probably will sell it before the Spring 2024 adapters hit, which I expect will also work on Tesla destination chargers.

 

[Zprime29]

OMG! WFT! LOL!

WaWa is heaven.

Still no idea what WaWa is either.

 

[Maquis]

Still no idea what WaWa is either.

It’s just like a Kum & Go!

 

[Zprime29]

It’s just like a Kum & Go!

Truck stop? lol...had to look that up too. Turns out I've never been to any of the states they have locations. I'm mostly a west coast kinda guy, with the exception of a short stint in Ohio.

 

[boggle]

Wawa is a convenience/gas station chain mostly around PA and now Florida. The food is admittedly pretty good but that may just be in contrast to how poor our other gas station options are here on the East Coast. Still not nearly as good as Buc-ees.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wawa_(company)

 

[Tony Burgh]

Sheetz ftw

 

[djwildstar]

I'm trying to understand the options available now locally for a road trip and in a bind. (I have a SR Lariat)

The current Tesla to J1772 adapters (the TeslaTap, TeslaTap Mini, and other brands) are only for charging from Tesla mobile connectors, Tesla wall connectors, and Tesla destination chargers (Tesla destination chargers are free Level 2 chargers at many hotels, restaurants and attractions). These adapters do not work with Tesla DC fast chargers, and probably do not work with any Tesla charger that requires payment through the Tesla app or via plug-and-play.

That said, I find these adapters quite useful, and I recommend carrying one on your truck for overnight road trips: I keep a TeslaTap Mini 80A on my truck. I've run across some hotels that only have Tesla chargers available, and at many hotels, the Tesla chargers deliver more charging current than the J1772 chargers.

Select the adapter that matches your truck's maximum charge acceptance rate. An adapter that is rated for less current than your truck's maximum is potentially dangerous, while one that is rated for more current than your truck's maximum is more expensive but delivers no benefit to you. SO:

• SR Lightnings have a maximum acceptance rate of 11.3kW, which is a hair over 47A. Any Tesla to J1772 adapter rated at 48A or more is fine for a SR truck -- but a higher-rated adapter won't charge your truck any faster than 11.3kW. Do not use an adapter rated at less than 48A with an SR truck.
• ER Lightnings have a maximum acceptance rate of 19.6kW, which is 80A. You must use a Tesla to J1772 adapter rated at 80A with an ER truck. While most Tesla chargers won't deliver more than 60A, there exist some that could.

Exceeding the adapter's maximum rated charging current could be a safety hazard. The adapter is a passive component, so it can't notify the truck or the charger of its current limit. Since neither the truck nor the charger would be aware of the restriction, they could overload the adapter, potentially causing Bad Things to happen: damage to the adapter, damage to the charger, damage to your truck, or even a fire.

 

[derm]

Yes for the general public. WaWa is a 7-11 gas station/mini mart on steroids, similar to Sheetz, and Royal Farms (Mostly on the Right! Coast ) ,

 

[Blainestang]

In the future, FORD will already be sending you a NACS adapter,

Has this been confirmed? It seemed like a generous interpretation of a vague comment, originally.

in the very rare and unlikely event you ever need to actually use a Tesla Supercharger, as a backup option to any local CCS stations.

Tesla Supercharging is going to be my go-to in some areas where CCS is straight trash (near the FL/GA line, for instance).

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