CSP-23B57 for High Voltage Battery Notice

[Beaux]

Assuming you're viewing the rate of charge the Fordpass app, my FCSP dialed in for 80 amps, usually show no more than 16KW, but when I look at my Emporia Vue2 energy monitor for the FCSP 100 amp breaker it's showing high 17.x KW sometimes as high at 18KW, never have I seen 19.2KW the theoretical maximum.

When you see it running under 14/15 KW, are you attempting to charge to 100% SOC, or is this happening constantly at lower SOC values?

i used to see over 18 regularly and had to keep it turned down due to over heating. Now it can take around ten hours to charge up when I’ve ran it low. One time it didn’t charge up before I needed to leave again the next day.

I have the truck set to charge to 90% daily as recommended and only charge to 100% for trips.

Currently most EA chargers that I’ve been on stay under 120kw where I used to average around 131kw.

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[TaxmanHog]

Currently most EA chargers that I’ve been on stay under 120kw where I used to average around 131kw.

My DCFC experiences with EA have ranged from 95 to 135, lately it's been consistently 100 to 120 KW
The charging sites can range wildly from session to session, I've only patronized 6 locations around New England so far.

 

[Beaux]

My DCFC experiences with EA have ranged from 95 to 135, lately it's been consistently 100 to 120 KW
The charging sites can range wildly from session to session, I've only patronized 6 locations around New England so far.

i have extensive experience in Georgia and Tennessee. I’ve had a 650 mile round trip to make about twice a month or so that I do in one day so I’m extremely familiar with fast charging woes.

 

[LUXMAN]

My DCFC experiences with EA have ranged from 95 to 135, lately it's been consistently 100 to 120 KW
The charging sites can range wildly from session to session, I've only patronized 6 locations around New England so far.

You may know this, but to get above 130ish on EA, you need to use their 350kw stations. The pack voltage on the Lightning is low for a "400V" system and couple that with cables that are limited to 350Amps, you will never get above that.
The 350kw stations have 500A cables, so that will max you out.
That is also why Magic Dock stations only turn out 130kW max also. So hopefully Tesla will make more Amperage available with the adapters.... not likely.

 

[TaxmanHog]

You may know this, but to get above 130ish on EA, you need to use their 350kw stations. The pack voltage on the Lightning is low for a "400V" system and couple that with cables that are limited to 350Amps, you will never get above that.
The 350kw stations have 500A cables, so that will max you out.
That is also why Magic Dock stations only turn out 130kW max also. So hopefully Tesla will make more Amperage available with the adapters.... not likely.

I think just about all these stations are 150KW's notice the trend over time months.

 

[LUXMAN]

I think just about all these stations are 150KW's notice the trend over time months.

That is interesting. I know EA has replaced some of their cables. But really depends on what the limiting factor is. Every 150kw charger I have visited is limited by 350A cables. With the pack voltage being in the 360 range on a low charge, the mathematically max is 126kw, with a slight ramp as pack voltage climbs. Of course with truck equipment limits as well.

That looks like a place you visit often. If you could look at the cable amperage on the bottom side of the handle next time you are there, I would be interested to hear what it is on those 150 and 350 units. Plus your pack voltage at the time with the charge speed (via CarScanner) would be confirmation of what is going on.

 

[MurphysLaww]

We're coming up on 3 weeks without the truck come monday.

 

[TomB985]

It surprises me how many 2023 trucks are having this issue. My 5/22 build hasn’t had any issues. You’d think they would have ironed this out by now.

 

[GoodSam]

notice the trend over time months.

Almost a correlation by seasonal temperature. Lots of higher Amps in winter months!

 

[TaxmanHog]

Almost a correlation by seasonal temperature. Lots of higher Amps in winter months!

TBH, I don't have a clue why, but this was the time frame of the spontaneous HVB failure at the Factory.......

-or-

EA, decided to lower its maximum output because of what they seen with that event.

 

[TaxmanHog]

How many days/weeks have to pass before this alert disappears once the Repair Order is closed out?

I also noticed that the [RECALL] tile is dynamic, if all your recalls are satisfied then the tile disappears, previously it was to the right of my CSP tile which continues to lists the BECM/Battery check update, the work was completed a while ago.

 

[GDN]

How many days/weeks have to pass before this alert disappears once the Repair Order is closed out?

I also noticed that the [RECALL] tile is dynamic, if all your recalls are satisfied then the tile disappears, previously it was to the right of my CSP tile which continues to lists the BECM/Battery check update, the work was completed a while ago.

Mine took several weeks (over 3, but I'm not sure when it disappeared) for the CSP to clear. The recalls took about a week.

 

[TaxmanHog]

Mine took several weeks (over 3, but I'm not sure when it disappeared) for the CSP to clear. The recalls took about a week.

Cool, the two recalls & one of the CSP's closed one day after the RO was closed.

I suspect they might need to do back office second review of the battery CSP regarding the health status before it's closed.

 

[Lytning]

Cool, the two recalls & one of the CSP's closed one day after the RO was closed.

I suspect they might need to do back office second review of the battery CSP regarding the health status before it's closed.

Back in September, I asked the dealership Service Advisor about the battery CSP still showing after completion of module replacement and the CSP. The SA said it would remain open for one year, but provided no explanation.

 

[mr.Magoo]

I didn't see any replies later in the thread so in the event people are wondering, I don't think anything bigger than an H3 will fit without modification.

The Lightning doesn't use the same tray as the Mach-E so there's no slots to move between.
The Lightning tray has molded fins, about 3/4" wide on both sides preventing the installation of a larger battery.

You should be able to fit an H4 size battery if you whip out your dremmel and grind them down, but I'll save that until there's a way to adjust the BMS to account for a larger battery in the first place.

I also just noticed the strain on the cable to the shunt (top right), that does not look like something that's built to last.

H3 Stock fitment

H4 Would this fit??

H5 Is this to long at 9.562 for the expansion position?

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