Trading XLT SR TO ER

[benderofbows]

How are you guys figuring out the trade in values? I was hoping there was some kind of website out there, and I know about KBB and that kind of thing but of course those are not binding quotes. I'm in a 23 Pro SR with just over 3K on it, and I would LOVE to walk into one of these deals if I could get out of the Pro.

Another question--supposedly Ford will not let us sell these things for a year. Is that BS? Seems like a lot of folks are selling their trucks and they can't be taking everyone to court.

Dealers use Black Book, it said $40k for my Pro and I got $41:
https://www.blackbookportals.com/bb/products/usedcarhtmlportal.asp?

You can sell within a year.

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[Kenreissig]

I have the XLT with the heavy duty tow package. 7000lb vs 10000lb It is just enough to let me tow my RV locally about 100 miles. It has additional cooling as opposed to the standard tow package 5000lb. I found going cross country if I used the APRP navigation app it was not that long a wait charging. I also thought about swapping to take advantage of the extra $7500 rebate but I can't justify the numbers.

Whats the weight of you trailer? At what charge percentage do start at and end to get 100 mile?

I’m going to be towing a 3000 lb camper 300 miles. I don’t mind taking a couple stops to charge, but wondering if I have to be at 100% to get 100 miles. Mostly flat driving at 65mph.

 

[Frankhpns]

Whats the weight of you trailer? At what charge percentage do start at and end to get 100 mile?

I’m going to be towing a 3000 lb camper 300 miles. I don’t mind taking a couple stops to charge, but wondering if I have to be at 100% to get 100 miles. Mostly flat driving at 65mph.

Our trailer is about 6500 lbs. We camp at local camp grounds. The range calculates out around 100 miles from 0% to 100% SOC @ about 50mph. I have not pushed the limit. After 50 miles I am at about 50% SOC. It really sucks up the electrons.

 

[eRock77]

Dealers use Black Book, it said $40k for my Pro and I got $41:
https://www.blackbookportals.com/bb/products/usedcarhtmlportal.asp?

You can sell within a year.

Thanks. I'm assuming there is no way I can get a blackbook figure other than through a dealer?

 

[benderofbows]

Thanks. I'm assuming there is no way I can get a blackbook figure other than through a dealer?

Sorry try this link:

http://www.blackbookportals.com/bb/products/usedcarhtmlportal.asp?color=o&companyid=thinkbank.COM

 

[Smokewagun]

My dealer checks the most recent price of what the used vehicles are crossing the auction block for. There’s just not enough used ones out there to make a good judgment call. When I’ve been going to blue book or Nada, they say information not available. Maybe that’s changed in the last couple weeks

 

[Kenreissig]

Our trailer is about 6500 lbs. We camp at local camp grounds. The range calculates out around 100 miles from 0% to 100% SOC @ about 50mph. I have not pushed the limit. After 50 miles I am at about 50% SOC. It really sucks up the electrons.

Thanks for the info.

 

[mags]

Another question--supposedly Ford will not let us sell these things for a year. Is that BS? Seems like a lot of folks are selling their trucks and they can't be taking everyone to court.

Ford doesn't care, but if you got an EV rebate from your state it may have caveats. Here in Maine you have to return the $2K rebate if you sell the car within 3 years. I'm not sure about the rules around the federal rebate.
EDIT: from some research it looks like the fed rebate doesn't have any limitations beyond capital gains tax (if you sell for more than you paid)

 

[eRock77]

Sorry try this link:

http://www.blackbookportals.com/bb/products/usedcarhtmlportal.asp?color=o&companyid=thinkbank.COM

Thanks, this is awesome!

 

[eRock77]

I took this info to my local dealer that has several XLT ER's in stock. I'm figuring that since we are two weeks from the end of the quarter they might be willing to make a deal. I was willing to throw in some extra money to get the XLT, ER battery, and possibly ACC. My Pro SR has 3K miles on it, not a scratch or dent anywhere. I was told that the dealership owner is terrified of taking any more Lightnings and would only offer me 31K on a trade in. There's no way I'm going to eat that much, I think my loan payoff is 56K. Anyone else having this experience?

 

[Smokewagun]

I shared the same with my Lariat SR. I’m going to keep saving until I can offset my negative equity, and possibly more for a down payment, and then offload mine. I have no confidence in the EV market, especially as I rack up miles quickly. At 100k in a couple years, I can see this truck worth squat. I think my mileage accrual rate will exceed the reduction in negative equity, which will keep me owing more than it’s worth until it’s paid off. Then, couple in what I believe will be the next issue: Ford not backing issues after warranty (for me it’s 100k miles, not 8 years). The one module that coordinates the 360 camera went out on mine. They say there can be up to 4. The one replacement was $7,500. Warranted, thank. YES, I said $7500. I saw the paperwork. The worst part is I’ll be forced into Fords new 2024 Fisher-Price models, which now have more ugly black plastic than metal. IF I buy a ford truck again, it will likely be the last. After 30+ Ford trucks now, I am likely out. Looking to get a Bronco in the next few years as my fun vehicle, but after that, who knows. Oh then, Ford will offer the all-new ABS Model, to replace the Lariat. All black plastic, including the body panels, and charge $85k.

 

[Pod]

Similar… I paid 62k+ and my dealer offered 40k to trade in. Truck is one year old and in perfect condition. Not taking a 22,000 loss on a trade. I MIGHT see 10k but not really. Based on disappearing inventory, I bet used value goes up quite a bit in a few months. Gonna wait it out and see.

 

[Smokewagun]

I just got an offer for my 2023 Lariat SR for $54k. I think I’m trading it and going back to an ICE. I LOVE the truck, but it’s just too inconvenient for my use now. I’d like to run it longer, but I don’t like the 2024 F-150, so I might need to jump on a 2023 while there are a few left.

 

[Bigbuckhunter71]

In same boat here 23 Pro trading offer 33k
Crazy how they deprecated so fast
Thought for sure the the PRO would hold its value especially in the construction field
Sorry to say but my Ramcharger will be here soon probably when my adapter shows.
I'm getting out!!

 

[wighty]

Based on disappearing inventory, I bet used value goes up quite a bit in a few months. Gonna wait it out and see.

I don't think this is likely. Even with Ford cutting production I am betting that you will not see demand meet their current production, ie new trucks are going to sit on the lot and have steep incentives keeping prices down on used trucks.

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