When will 2025s be available? And does Ford normally run promotions to move older models?

[John Becker]

It appears that most of the 2024s have plastic (Active-X) seats. For 2025, only the Platinum has leather.

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[GoodSam]

https://fordauthority.com/2024/10/2025-ford-f-150-lightning-production-begins-next-month/

 

[fitek]

If I had to guess I don't think we will ever see a refresh of the Lightning. Ford's new truck "T3" will likely be its replacement. The Lightning is just too expensive to make, it's not a very efficient design. A purpose-built ground-up EV is cheaper to make on an ongoing basis. The Lightning is really an ICE F150 converted to be electric.

Farley has said that big vehicles do not make good EVs (from a business standpoint). Batteries are too expensive-- lower trims are going to lose money. Ford efficiency is behind Tesla, but not as abysmal as GM. The efficiency matters less if they designed an EV truck from the ground up, and probably made it smaller (Ranger sized?).

 

[toskin]

Here in the Midwest we’ve seen 15k-16.5k off (including the full EV tax credit) new 2024 Flashes and XLTs. These are also 0% financing for 60 months through Ford Credit, which puts them in the same general ballpark as a used Lightning if you are financing it.

My advice - 2024 Flash financed at 0% - first year for the heat pump, last year for a full size spare, adaptive cruise control, scales…

 

[MBM]

It appears that most of the 2024s have plastic (Active-X) seats. For 2025, only the Platinum has leather.

Does anyone have this synthetic Active X on their Mach E or Lariat? I’m curious how it will be on the 25 Flash since the seats won’t be cooled.

 

[fitek]

Does anyone have this synthetic Active X on their Mach E or Lariat? I’m curious how it will be on the 25 Flash since the seats won’t be cooled.

Have not experienced the Ford seats, but when I got a VW GTI in 2017 I opted for the plastic leather seats, non-ventilated, instead of cloth or real leather and they were easily the worst part of the car (I sold it a few years later). The seat shape was comfortable but when it was hot it was only slightly better than wearing a trash bag (unless you enjoyed teenage hazing).

 

[fitek]

My credit union offers 6.54% rate on used cars.
45k, 60 month loan: $7,879.20 interest

There was just a 2022 Lariat ER w/ 2,600 miles for $53k; already sold after 2 days. Handful of 2024 Flashes within 1500 miles around $61k (about as far as I can drive in a weekend).

 

[The Weatherman]

Does anyone have this synthetic Active X on their Mach E or Lariat? I’m curious how it will be on the 25 Flash since the seats won’t be cooled.

I had the Ford Active X in my 2022 Maverick trucks. It was sturdy and held up well. I personally thought it was easier to clean than leather.

I would have in my vehicle again.

And those were ventilated Hot and Cold.

 

[tannerk89]

I was Facebook spammed for weeks on 2023 lightning deals and ended up finding a 23 Pro ER. Coming from a Mach-E premium 4x, I had similar requirements to you. ER, ACC and lane centering. I didn’t get the ACC/Lane centering as options on the truck I bought, but found out it was about $700 and a couple hours of work to get it added in via some great people on this forum. If you can find a 23 there are some fantastic deals out there, my pro was roughly 5k below sticker plus 3k in incentives, 0% financing and qualified for the full tax credit… couldn’t pass that up!

 

[fitek]

I was Facebook spammed for weeks on 2023 lightning deals and ended up finding a 23 Pro ER. Coming from a Mach-E premium 4x, I had similar requirements to you. ER, ACC and lane centering. I didn’t get the ACC/Lane centering as options on the truck I bought, but found out it was about $700 and a couple hours of work to get it added in via some great people on this forum. If you can find a 23 there are some fantastic deals out there, my pro was roughly 5k below sticker plus 3k in incentives, 0% financing and qualified for the full tax credit… couldn’t pass that up!

Thanks for the heads up. Didn't know Pro ER existed. I wrench on all my cars so adding those features in, if it's that's simple, would be no problem. I was in a Pro early on and other than the seats, it seemed fine to me-- I've done a seat swap before, but only on a car without airbags in the seats.

EDIT Well, there's not a whole lot of 23 Pro ERs left. They seem to all be Oxford White, which is my least favorite color after black.

 

[Smokewagun]

Illinois has 0% for 66 months with $2,000 credit if you don’t take the charger offer. I have a $2,500 PCO on top. Looking hard a 2024 Flash. Now that Ford has a storage yard in Chicago with tons of stock pre-built, I can have exactly what I want in little as 5 days.
Im not putting faith in the T3. Especially if HotDog doesn’t get off his buns and fix the quality issues with Ford. My 2022 Lightning was the best truck I’ve had in 30+ trucks. Quality, build, ride, etc. My current 2023 is the worst build I’ve had. I don’t want the T3 based on the Ranger. I’m 6’-5” and 265. Not fat. Just Parr style. I need room.

 

[fitek]

We went and test drove the Lightning and Mach E back to back and the worst possible thing happened, which is that the wife wants one and I want the other. So we may get a Mach E first unless a screaming deal comes along; 2022s are a pretty damn good deal.

 

[hajalie24]

Does anyone have this synthetic Active X on their Mach E or Lariat? I’m curious how it will be on the 25 Flash since the seats won’t be cooled.

Silly question but how do I know if it's real or synthetic? I have a 24' Lariat

 

[Pioneer74]

We went and test drove the Lightning and Mach E back to back and the worst possible thing happened, which is that the wife wants one and I want the other. So we may get a Mach E first unless a screaming deal comes along; 2022s are a pretty damn good deal.

I know the feeling.

 

[StevenC56]

Silly question but how do I know if it's real or synthetic? I have a 24' Lariat

It says which one it is on the top right of the window sticker. My Lariat has Active-X and they are fine. I know a lot of people actually prefer the Active-X over the real leather.

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