Extended Range 320 Miles???

[chris.bryan]

I purchased my 2024 Lightning in September, installed the ProCharger and really like the truck, but during the purchase I was told the extended battery was designed for 320 miles depending on driving. I follow the charging guidelines from ford to typically charge to 90% but the numbers don’t add up at 90% it shows typically 240-245 miles so I charged to 100% and it reads 265 miles.
My question is: where is the 320 miles? Ford stated the extended range battery is 320 miles.

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[sotek2345]

The range meter is really a guess-o-meter, it tries but it isn't that accurate. Pay more attention to the miles per kWh reading. You have a 131kWh (usable) battery, so if you are getting ~2.4-2.5 miles per kWh, you get the 320 miles. I can get that or even beat that in around town driving in warmer weather. In cooler weather, or at higher speeds you will get less.

 

[RickLightning]

At 90%, divide the range shown by 0.9 and you have the 100% number...

Is the term "depending on driving" unclear? If you drive 35mph locally, you will get over 320...

Hundreds of posts complaining about range. Did you complain when your gas vehicle didn't hit the EPA number?

 

[Amps]

My question is: where is the 320 miles?

Simple answer that it is achieved using the EPA testing protocol.

You achieve it when you drive in mixed driving and realize 2.44 mi/kWh of consumption. It's not easy, almost impossible to do driving at high speeds. Pay attention to consumption, not the GOM.

If you don't need to regularly drive more than ~250 miles between charging opportunities, what is the concern? If you need to drive more than that without charging, it's probably the wrong truck for you.

 

[TaxmanHog]

How hilly is Falling Waters West Virginia?

The terrain can impact estimated range.

https://en-us.topographic-map.com/m...532,-78.26048&popup=39.63644,-78.12426&zoom=9

 

[Zprime29]

The EPA rated range is achievable in good weather (50-90), flat terrain, under 60mph. If any of those conditions are not met, expect less. As with ICE, a lead foot will also result in lower efficiency.

 

[Tom Jensen]

I purchased my 2024 Lightning in September, installed the ProCharger and really like the truck, but during the purchase I was told the extended battery was designed for 320 miles depending on driving. I follow the charging guidelines from ford to typically charge to 90% but the numbers don’t add up at 90% it shows typically 240-245 miles so I charged to 100% and it reads 265 miles.
My question is: where is the 320 miles? Ford stated the extended range battery is 320 miles.

I made almost 300 at highway speed on a 100 percent charge — with a 40-50 MPH tailwind. That was a one-off, for sure. It was a headwind on the way home with predictable results on SOC.

 

[tedshred]

If you drive a lot of city driving you will see numbers of close to 400 miles on the guess a meter.
On the highway - no wind - warm temperatures - not going over 70 mph - you should see between 2.0 -2.4 miles per kWh
Once any of those variables are changed it only goes down from there
You will get good with math in your head.
13 kWh / 10% of battery.

 

[josephalbert0425]

It really depends on your driving style and the weather conditions. I have had my Lighting Flash since July and initially I was seeing efficiency around 1.5 miles/Kwh especially after a 280 mile drive home going 80 to 70 mph from the dealership. Now that I have been driving it daily for a few months and have a better feel for what it likes I can regularly get an average of 2.4 miles/Kwh even on mostly highway. because of the stop and go traffic, my typical commute in to work and home I can even push 3.0 miles/Kwh. Another thing that will eat your efficiency like crazy is wind, really strong winds. My 2018 tacoma that I drove before this was supposed to get 443 miles of range on a full tank of gas according to the EPA but I never got those kinds of numbers. It always hovered around 320 or 360 when the tank was full even since new.

It really comes down to mindset adjustments, If you know you're just city driving you'll more then likely get the 320 miles of range out of it but if you are going on a long roadtrip realistically its more like 270 miles of range on a full battery especially depending on the speed and wind conditions. I also find that fords estimations can be very pessimistic and very quick to adapt so they are changing constantly based on your driving. I found the more I drive the less unpredictable it gets as it learns how I drive more and more but that could just be me also adapting to living with an EV.

disclaimer, I should mention I am kind of a grandma driver, I usually stick to speed limits and never really gun the accelerator. I always treated my Tacoma the same and even then I couldn't get the EPA range on it.

 

[dmalonecentral]

Yeah, my Ram didn’t get 15/22 either.

 

[grange]

Pardon my language but mileage is a F'ing joke. I have the ER Lariet package and I get nowhere near 320 miles.... especially in MN winters. I drive 151 miles to a cabin up north. Leaving in a full charge in summer I can make with 40% left in capacity. Winter time it is 7-10%.
Yes battery is warmed
No I do not drive 45 MPH
Yes wind, barometric pressure and all that other stuff applies

From a truth in marketing it should read with Extended Battery: spending $75k on a new Ford EV with ER may yield between 150&300 miles per full charge. And it will decrease with use.

 

[jefrank]

The EPA should change the labeling for ICE trucks to show maximum range so people could complain on that side, too

 

[Zprime29]

The EPA should change the labeling for ICE trucks to show maximum range so people could complain on that side, too

Would be infinitely more useful to have an EPA rating for city/highway in miles/kWh similar to the MPG report.

For my use case in the desert, I get 2.8 city / 2.0 highway
Let the peons do their own math for range.

 

[grange]

The EPA should change the labeling for ICE trucks to show maximum range so people could complain on that side, too

Agree but with ICE you have fueling options every other mile. If I miscalculate and run out of juice...I am screwed

 

[hajalie24]

The range estimates on EV marketing is BS. If I buy another EV it will definitely always be the long range version.

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