Expanded Charge Settings – Take Control of Your Charge

[Charge_Rob]

@Ford Motor Company Will the global charge limit be ignored if a location is saved? For instance, I like to charge past 70% when at work but I limit it to 70% when at home.

Edit: Also, would be nice if the write up for Lightning owners reference a lightning instead of a MachE.

One more thing, why no Amps reported for DCFC?

The Global Target Charge setting applies to all locations. With this software, saved locations do not have unique target charge settings, but still have unique Preferred Charge Time settings.

As for AC vs. DC, since Amps are not a commonly communicated value for DC charging (the vast majority of DC chargers don't advertise or display Amps) sticking to kW was done to avoid creating extra confusion.

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[queuewho]

The amps setting has been my one ask all along. Please let this come to all model years...

 

[OMO7]

Give FMC a 7 day ban for not answering if it's coming to 22-24 model years.

 

[Albern]

Similar to the other same-day announcement from @Ford Motor Company, these features are going across all model years of the Lightning correct?

My initial thought that there isn't any hardware limitations so it would be efforts of firmware and software. Can you guys please clarify in your communications and going forward?

Edit: All of the data and telemetry (that is sent to FordPass) are already in the software, so there should be an OTA across all model years. This looks more to be a UI clean-up with better integration of vehicle lock state with the charge port. I would be shocked if this cannot be applied to the whole fleet.

 

[P-38]

Hmm...would be interested in knowing if it will come to older models.

But also I like having different charge values for different locations, home charge to 60% because that will cover expected trips...then work charge to 90% because...free charging at work

 

[awilli1010]

It would also be nice if they’d fix the charging location settings that software 10.3 messed up.

 

[Firn]

Wouldn't be a Ford release without an immediate update required...



48A @ 208v is 10.0kW (and pretty rare to be on 208...)
48A @ 240v is 11.5kW (and much more common)
69%.... oooookay. Did they pick 9.6kW because its 69 backwards?



69%.... 69kW. Oooookay. Who's the sexaholic in marketing? Might need some light coaching.



Who was responsible for that feature addition? Thats totally stupid....
Charge curve falls off at 80% on DC charging, so it normally makes sense to stop there, unless you're going through a charging desert... then your going higher.
AC... every day charging, most people are in the 80-95% range...
Combining them under 1 global slider is.... pretty par for the course for you guys.

2025 and newer. At least you didn't wind us up by telling us we'd get this update in Summertime (2026). Appreciate the new features Tesla was putting in their cars back in 2018 finally rolling out to the Ford suite of products.

Dang dude, leave some of the whine in the cellar.

 

[Maineiac12]

@Ford Motor Company I appreciate that you’re human and answered the question about your typo…. But you are conspicuously ignoring all the questions about whether these software updates will come to owners of 22-24 trucks.

It would really suck for you guys to ignore your early adopters and arguably biggest Ford EV fans like that. If you’re going to compete with other EV companies, you can’t gatekeep software behind arbitrary model year restrictions when the hardware is the same.

 

[Firn]

@Ford Motor Company I appreciate that you’re human and answered the question about your typo…. But you are conspicuously ignoring all the questions about whether these software updates will come to owners of 22-24 trucks.

It would really suck for you guys to ignore your early adopters and arguably biggest Ford EV fans like that. If you’re going to compete with other EV companies, you can’t gatekeep software behind arbitrary model year restrictions when the hardware is the same.

Standard big business issues, and a "don't shoot the messanger" situation.

I also very much would love to know these things but my guess is that because they have not been tested against all previous software and hardware versions on th22-24 trucks the two guys who get to feed info the the group of (apparently very bitter old men) members here are told they can't answer that. It very much seems that they would if they could.

Sucks, but with as much whining as is already in this thread can you imagine if they said it could be done, and then we find out that say Job 2 2022 trucks can't actually do that...

 

[Maineiac12]

Standard big business issues, and a "don't shoot the messanger" situation.

I also very much would love to know these things but my guess is that because they have not been tested against all previous software and hardware versions on th22-24 trucks the two guys who get to feed info the the group of (apparently very bitter old men) members here are told they can't answer that. It very much seems that they would if they could.

Sucks, but with as much whining as is already in this thread can you imagine if they said it could be done, and then we find out that say Job 2 2022 trucks can't actually do that...

I’m not that old, and if I’m bitter it’s because I spent a lot of money on 2 Ford EVs that came with the promise of “OTA updates” that Ford has yet to live up to. They’re falling behind other EV companies by gate keeping software features behind arbitrary model year designations when we all know the hardware hasn’t changed.

If they need time to test, say so! Don’t come here and rub a bunch of new features in our face that we’ve been asking for and then imply that the only way to get them is to unload our severely depreciated vehicles for a new one.

There aren’t even any 25’s available for sale anywhere yet

 

[Firn]

I’m not that old, and if I’m bitter it’s because I spent a lot of money on 2 Ford EVs that came with the promise of “OTA updates” that Ford has yet to live up to. They’re falling behind other EV companies by gate keeping software features behind arbitrary model year designations when we all know the hardware hasn’t changed.

If they need time to test, say so! Don’t come here and rub a bunch of new features in our face that we’ve been asking for and then imply that the only way to get them is to unload our severely depreciated vehicles for a new one.

There aren’t even any 25’s available for sale anywhere yet

I can guarentee that you HAVE received software updates, you just are not sure if you will receive THIS ONE. You bought your truck, but if you bought it for features you you might get that you didn't even know of back then, well that isn't Fords fault when you are disappointed.

The hardware HAS changed. It has changed significantly. There are many versions of modules and components and we know for a FACT that the entire software architecture that underpinns these trucks changed in 24. In 24 they switched to an encrypted canbus, that is not a small change.

New vehicles always have features older ones didn't. Just because there are software updates instead of hardware updates doesn't mean all vehicles can and will have all things. Heck, you truck has already received capabilites it didn't have when you bought it, more than any other truck in Fords history.

And sure, we can point at tesla, but we know this isn't tesla. And frankly, when they do things like they did in what, 22 when they just decided that nope, you don't get to pick how much regen you get now, it's always full blast. We'll, it makes me happy this ISNT tesla.

 

[TaxmanHog]

No way I'm trading for minor features vs losing the positive values in my MY22
I've got a LOOOOOOONG way to go before reaching my 8 to 10 year holding goal.

 

[Maquis]

No way I'm trading for minor features vs losing the positive values in my MY22
I've got a LOOOOOOONG way to go before reaching my 8 to 10 year holding goal.

“You can take my dual onboard chargers when you pry them from my cold, dead hands!”

 

[Maineiac12]

I can guarentee that you HAVE received software updates, you just are not sure if you will receive THIS ONE. You bought your truck, but if you bought it for features you you might get that you didn't even know of back then, well that isn't Fords fault when you are disappointed.

The hardware HAS changed. It has changed significantly. There are many versions of modules and components and we know for a FACT that the entire software architecture that underpinns these trucks changed in 24. In 24 they switched to an encrypted canbus, that is not a small change.

New vehicles always have features older ones didn't. Just because there are software updates instead of hardware updates doesn't mean all vehicles can and will have all things. Heck, you truck has already received capabilites it didn't have when you bought it, more than any other truck in Fords history.

And sure, we can point at tesla, but we know this isn't tesla. And frankly, when they do things like they did in what, 22 when they just decided that nope, you don't get to pick how much regen you get now, it's always full blast. We'll, it makes me happy this ISNT tesla.

I’ve got some boots over here. Would you like to come lick them?

I’ve gotten an update to make an update to my updates and that’s it. My truck doesn’t even have the public charging app lol. Please explain how adding Tesla chargers to navigation software is hardware limited? Or preconditioning on CarPlay? Or how Ford told 22-23 owners they would get the updates to allow charge info on the display and generator mode and then failed to deliver?

If you think this is anything other than an old school greedy business decision, you’re delusional. Ford can’t compete in the future if they don’t change their mindset on software. It’s not even Tesla… Rivian and others are all providing meaningful updates with regularity.

 

[Randall Stephens]

“You can take my dual onboard chargers when you pry them from my cold, dead hands!”

Quote for truth!

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