Help: Can't Decide - Tire Replacements

[Shawnson]

Thanks for the feedback!

For what it's worth, I am looking at going with 265/70/18s and not the 275/70/18s because the 265/70s are 4-ply standard-load (load rating 116, which matches the 20" tires). I suspect the E-rated tires on your truck are one of the reasons for the efficiency drop on top of moving to an all-terrain tire. E-rated tires are considerably heavier then SL rated tires.

What about wet traction? Have you had to drive those tires through the rain and/or snow yet? If so, any impressions you can share along those lines?

In the wet, they are good, but I thought the General Grabbers were also pretty good considering how I drive sometimes…

Still waiting for the first snow. I plan on using these as my “winter tires“ then come April, swapping back to the 20s with the Grabbers for summer usage and longer highway drives.

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[Shawnson]

20%.... not sure I can handle that.

I would not myself do this if I wasn’t ready to use both sets, and swapping back to the original boots when going on long drives. They are more meant to be my winter / light off-roading shoes.

 

[Zprime29]

I did look at those... struggling to justify that much of a premium. For instance I can get the Defenders for around $1000 installed. Toyo's would be ~$1800 after install.

Where did you find the Defenders for that price? Best I've priced out was around $1200 for me, which is still cheaper than the Toyo. But I've decided I want to splurge and order the Toyo anyways. I want to do a bit of off roading (nothing crazy) and am hoping the hit I see on range is minimal. My local Discount found 2 and am waiting on another 2 that are back ordered. Should have them on by the end of the month.

 

[jamelski]

Put some REAL man truck tires on


bf traction machines
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=All-Terrain+T/A+KO2&partnum=76SR0KO2&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Ford&autoYear=2024&autoModel=F150 4WD SuperCrew&autoModClar=275/60-20
Or some sticky Mickeys
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Mickey+Thompson&tireModel=Baja+Boss+A/T&partnum=76QR0BBAT&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Ford&autoYear=2024&autoModel=F150 4WD SuperCrew&autoModClar=275/60-20

. Can’t wait for the oh I’m so offended posts

 

[2000Firehawk]

Just put the Michelin Defenders on mine at about 46K miles. No major off-roading planned and looking for quiet and smooth miles ahead. I have the Toyos (non-EV version) on my 3500 Ram and they have been a great tire, but are showing some concerns with quite a bit of tread left recently. Not really a major noise difference from the stick POS Firestones (on a diesel truck though) and they look great. They are starting to have noticeably less wet weather traction which is concerning given the tread wear left.

 

[Ragman]

We get a second set of Rim's (Pro/18's) with winters when we order the trucks - the ride is noticeably smoother then the 20's (combination rims and softer winter tires). There is a noticeable range drop I'd say 10% which in combination with the temperature impacts if truck is cold soaked is painful.

That said - on go the winter's... The trucks are a dream to drive with dedicated winter tires. Dealer invoice reads as X-Ice and Tremor Rims - a bit pricey at $3,500 Cdn (~$2,500 USD).

 

[Zapitgood]

The Goodyear WRANGLER TERRITORY AT 275/60R-20 come on the new Rivians same weight capacity as the grabbers. It’s a EV tire. Quiet as grabbers and getting initially the same average mi/kwh as well. Got them from Discount Tire. Good price as well not sure how long they will last if I get 25000 miles I’m good I chirp the front wheels all the time and that will affect wear.

 

[Pioneer74]

The Goodyear WRANGLER TERRITORY AT 275/60R-20 come on the new Rivians same weight capacity as the grabbers. It’s a EV tire. Quiet as grabbers and getting initially the same average mi/kwh as well. Got them from Discount Tire. Good price as well not sure how long they will last if I get 25000 miles I’m good I chirp the front wheels all the time and that will affect wear.

Let us know how they work out. For an AT tire, they are rated lower on Tire Rack on every category compared to the Generals, and are really close in price to the Defenders, which are ranked #1.

 

[Zapitgood]

Let us know how they work out. For an AT tire, they are rated lower on Tire Rack on every category compared to the Generals, and are really close in price to the Defenders, which are ranked #1.

I I was comparing these to the General Grabbers that came on the truck from the factory. These do provide the all weather performance. I’ve put about 870 miles on them already. It’s a good replacement for the OEM I think they provide the look I was wanting and for a decent price. The biggest negative for me is the tread wear is less than the factory grabbers but I’m ok with the shorter wear life because of the price looks and seasonal use. I will post updates.

 

[Randall Stephens]

Put some REAL man truck tires on


bf traction machines
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=All-Terrain+T/A+KO2&partnum=76SR0KO2&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Ford&autoYear=2024&autoModel=F150 4WD SuperCrew&autoModClar=275/60-20
Or some sticky Mickeys
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Mickey+Thompson&tireModel=Baja+Boss+A/T&partnum=76QR0BBAT&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Ford&autoYear=2024&autoModel=F150 4WD SuperCrew&autoModClar=275/60-20

. Can’t wait for the oh I’m so offended posts

I’m offended you didn’t recommend the KO3…

 

[N87]

Hard to go wrong with Michelin Defenders, imho.

I am strongly considering those for my next set. Pacific NW area

 

[mr.Magoo]

- OEM Grabber all seasons were dissapointing in Winter so not considering them. Winter driving is important (Wisconsin)

- I dont want to switch between all seasons, and snow tires, I want 1 tire year round... seems like big hassle to swap twice a year.

The biggest "hassle" with dedicated winters is storage.
You have to (should anyway) rotate your all seasons every so often either way and if you do work on your vehicle yourself it's easier to "rotate" when you change from winter to warm season tires than it is to rotate with just one set of tires.

That said, no all season is going to be as good in the winter as a true winter tire, I too tried the Generals for winter and it wasn't fun. I now have Nokian Hakka for winter and that was a lot of fun.

I use Conti TerrainContact H/T as my warm season tire and mine are on 22" but you can get them in 20" as well. So far I'm happy with them, grippy, quiet, not much wear to speak of (only had them one year / two seasons).

 

[Nomoregas]

I am strongly considering those for my next set. Pacific NW area

I also ran the Defenders last year all winter no issues for me at all, good tire, good range.

 

[patrickj62]

I did look at those... struggling to justify that much of a premium. For instance I can get the Defenders for around $1000 installed. Toyo's would be ~$1800 after install.

I got 44K out of my original tires and replaced them with the Toyo - out the door $1100 installed. I do live in Northern California and don't experience the harsh WI winters. But 44K miles was a surprise to me... and GPG!

 

[luebri]

Where did you find the Defenders for that price? Best I've priced out was around $1200 for me, which is still cheaper than the Toyo. But I've decided I want to splurge and order the Toyo anyways. I want to do a bit of off roading (nothing crazy) and am hoping the hit I see on range is minimal. My local Discount found 2 and am waiting on another 2 that are back ordered. Should have them on by the end of the month.

My dealer has a sales going on next week that quoted around $1000 installed... but currently this is what I could get them at Costco.

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