NACS to CCS adapters to ship in January

[RickKeen]

It’s close, but I was able to fit. It’s more like 1-2ft.

Except you are using the wrong cord for that spot. Teslas charge on the driver side back corner by backing in. So the designated cord for the parking spot the truck is occupying is on the passenger side of the truck as parked.

But of course with the lot empty like this, no worries.

 

[RickKeen]

Frankly unless it is coming with an extension cord, I would much rather they focus on designing a NACS port that is compatible with the current Lightning and Mach-E that I can go pay a dealer to install and move fully to NACS at home and when out any about.

To avoid needing the extension, the charge port would have to move to the back corner of the driver's side of the vehicle. Would have to add a hatch to the back fender, or make a flip-open tail-light.

Alternatively, they could move it to the front passenger corner, but that would be an inconvenient location for home charging.

 

[Grease Lightning]

To avoid needing the extension, the charge port would have to move to the back corner of the driver's side of the vehicle. Would have to add a hatch to the back fender, or make a flip-open tail-light.

Alternatively, they could move it to the front passenger corner, but that would be an inconvenient location for home charging.

Or Tesla could continue to make their V4 and Magic Dock style V3 chargers that have larger cables because even the CyberTurd needs a little longer then the OG V3….

 

[LightningShow]

Because without doing so would cost them future business. CCS is a total failure (in my opinion from my one road trip) compared to NACS. I just did my San Antonio to Tulsa drive that with my 2018 M3 is a 2 stop & charge trip. With the ER Lightning it was a 3 stop 5x as expensive and nowhere near as pleasant charging experience. I had one charger disconnect 3 times and bill a $1 connection fee for each. I had a 200kw listed charger max out a 30kw, and a crowded cramped Walmart EA charge experience. All the Fordpass charging was at 50c/kwh, Tesla supercharging is 35c/kwh for Tesla cars. Do any gas stations have this kind of price discrepancy? On the way back we stopped at the Arlington SC with the magic doc. Other than having to park a few inches from the SC case it was the fastest at connecting (because you do not have to hang out at the charger to hit the OK button). The SC had the thinnest cable and was the only one I did not feel was going to rip out the charge connector from the truck from weight or twist of the cable. I’ll pay immediately for the adapter if it unlocks V3 superchargers.

i’m happy with the vehicle, though. I don’t blame Ford for the crappy CCS network. They have no control over it. They made the effort to make a deal to help us have better charging options. I don’t think you can fault Fore at all in this situation. Sure, giving out free stuff helps but they shouldn’t feel obligated. Maybe a discount for people who bought in the last 12-24 months?

 

[flyct]

i’m happy with the vehicle, though. I don’t blame Ford for the crappy CCS network. They have no control over it. They made the effort to make a deal to help us have better charging options. I don’t think you can fault Fore at all in this situation. Sure, giving out free stuff helps but they shouldn’t feel obligated. Maybe a discount for people who bought in the last 12-24 months?

Ford was really smart making the initial deal with Tesla. THE ONLY REASON I BOUGHT A LIGHTNING WAS BECAUSE OF THE ABILITY TO USE SUPERCHARGERS NEXT YEAR!

I commend Tesla for opening up their chargers.

 

[Grease Lightning]

Ford was really smart making the initial deal with Tesla. THE ONLY REASON I BOUGHT A LIGHTNING WAS BECAUSE OF THE ABILITY TO USE SUPERCHARGERS NEXT YEAR!

I commend Tesla for opening up their chargers.

If that was the ONLY reason, why didn’t you buy a Tesla? The M3 would have been cheaper and allowed you to charge faster and more integrated if you bought the Lightning to ONLY to use the superchargers…..

 

[RickKeen]

I commend Tesla for opening up their chargers.

I am glad its happening, but not sure I commend Tesla
A: Its kind of an anti-trust law that they not tie Supercharging to only their vehicle (true, those anti-trust laws are rarely enforced, but technically it is a law).
B: They are getting paid to do it with government subsidies. Like $ Thousands per supercharger they enable for CCS.

Even if I never road trip my F150, just the reduction of charging anxiety increases its resale value if I ever sell it.

 

[flyct]

If that was the ONLY reason, why didn’t you buy a Tesla? The M3 would have been cheaper and allowed you to charge faster and more integrated if you bought the Lightning to ONLY to use the superchargers…..

Look at my signature. I bought 2 Teslas

To be clear, i need a truck for truck things and I would not have bought a Lightning If CSS was the only choice for charging on road trips. I would have bought a ICE or Hybrid. F-150 instead. The ONLY reason I bought the Lightning instead of a ICE pickup truck was the promise of ability to use Tesla Superchargers.

The Teslas are perfect for all trips that don’t require a truck.

 

[LightningShow]

Ford was really smart making the initial deal with Tesla. THE ONLY REASON I BOUGHT A LIGHTNING WAS BECAUSE OF THE ABILITY TO USE SUPERCHARGERS NEXT YEAR!

I commend Tesla for opening up their chargers.

i think it would be reasonable to give an adapter to anyone who bought a new Ford EV from the time of the announcement. Charge people who bought before the announcement.

 

[jetfixr1]

Has anyone else recently noticed on A2Z's website it shows a MME charging on a Tesla Supercharger? They have had prior videos showing two adapters piggybacked onto each other to charge a Tesla, but this is different. Not a Tesla, and no other adapter being piggybacked. Could this be the adapter Tesla/Ford will endorse? Also, it seems A2Z is doing an excellent job providing details on the plug as compared to Lectron, which has no supporting details on their website.

 

[Yellow Buddy]

To avoid needing the extension, the charge port would have to move to the back corner of the driver's side of the vehicle. Would have to add a hatch to the back fender, or make a flip-open tail-light.

Alternatively, they could move it to the front passenger corner, but that would be an inconvenient location for home charging.

If it was desired, there’s a more options..

1) Inside the bed, the worst option possible.

2) Into the bumper. Expand the trailer pin slot to also accommodate a charge port door as well.

3) Into the tailgate. Flap door next to the tailgate step for a vertical plug in.

As a truck I prefer to back into the charger but Ford may have intentionally placed it up front to accommodate charging with something in tow.

4) The Ford logo is large enough, perhaps a flip up logo with the connector underneath it.

 

[luebri]

B: They are getting paid to do it with government subsidies. Like $ Thousands per supercharger they enable for CCS.

do you have a source for the statement? I’m Not trying to be antagonistic at all, but I have looked and not seen anything regarding source documentation. I have heard others say they are getting subsidies for the magic dock installs (which is different than opening NACS superchargers to be used via an owners CCS adapter), but don’t recall seeing any definitive proof of that either.

Either way, I would much rather have Tesla get the money than all these incompetent state rollouts of the NEVI money… although my true preference would be give it back to the taxpayer. Opening of the supercharger network makes the NEVI funding an even bigger, waste and boondoggle.

 

[ThomasNC]

I know that Tesla has been only putting Magic Docks where they get government incentives that require CCS. I'm not aware of them getting anything for opening up stations for use with your own adapter. I believe that the federal government is in the process of changing the rules so that CCS isn't required for certain incentives so that will be a financial win for Tesla. The reason any business does anything is for the money though. One can safely assume Telsa feels they've reached the point where opening up the network will generate more money for them than keeping it closed as an incentive for people to buy Telsas would. The federal government subsidizes tons of things, it is how society kind of works, I never really understand the outrage at certain things.

 

[LightningShow]

If it was desired, there’s a more options..

1) Inside the bed, the worst option possible.

2) Into the bumper. Expand the trailer pin slot to also accommodate a charge port door as well.

3) Into the tailgate. Flap door next to the tailgate step for a vertical plug in.

As a truck I prefer to back into the charger but Ford may have intentionally placed it up front to accommodate charging with something in tow.

4) The Ford logo is large enough, perhaps a flip up logo with the connector underneath it.

Why wouldn't you put in the bedside near the taillight? Anywhere in the tailgate is a non-starter IMO.

 

[LightningShow]

Has anyone else recently noticed on A2Z's website it shows a MME charging on a Tesla Supercharger? They have had prior videos showing two adapters piggybacked onto each other to charge a Tesla, but this is different. Not a Tesla, and no other adapter being piggybacked. Could this be the adapter Tesla/Ford will endorse? Also, it seems A2Z is doing an excellent job providing details on the plug as compared to Lectron, which has no supporting details on their website.

Nice! I can't wait!