Need To Know If a Lightning Will Work For Me

[duncanmaio]

I run a Grizzl-e at 24 amps on a 30 amp circuit at home (I mostly charge at work).

I checked my charge logs - I recently charged from 28% to 80% in a little over 14 hours.

Another session took me from 70% to 100% in 10 hours and 10 minutes.

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[Henry Ford]

In continuing looking into the purchase of a Lightning, I had someone tell me that tires do not last nearly as long on EV's, as they do on on the gas powered vehicles. I would appreciate any feedback that anyone can give. Is this the truth or just someone who is looking for ways to dissuade EV purchases?

All things equal, a heavier vehicle will wear tires faster than a lighter vehicle. EVs are generally heavier then their ICE counterparts so there's probably some merit to this statement though it's certainly overblown. I hear motor oil doesn't last nearly as long in ICE vehicles as it does in EVs. I put a case of oil in my frunk when I bought my truck 17,000 miles ago and it's still brand new. See what I did?

All things equal, a funner car will wear tires faster than a boring car. I hear Porsches go through tires very quickly. I've never heard a Porsche owner complain about it.

 

[MJ Heat]

Well, EVs are heavier and generate more torque. In addition, manufacturers look to reduce weight and rolling resistance in order to improve efficiency. That certainly can result in less tire life, depending on how and how much you drive.

The stock AT tires were apparently a little soft for my driving style - but I still got over 40,000 miles out of them in about 18 months. Could have gone a little longer maybe, but I thought we were going to have winter in New England this year.

Thanks for the feedback! It sounds like the tire life on your Lightning is not all that much different than anticipated tire life on my F150 Hybrid. I am almost at 35k now & judging from current tire condition I expect to need to replace them at about 50k miles. I believe the Hybrid weighs about 20% less than the Lightning.

I was told that I would not get more than 10 - 15k miles out of tires on an EV. Does anyone know if that is true for any EV's out there?

 

[Zprime29]

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How's that bidirectional unit coming along? I'm about to get my $7500 rebate, just saying...

 

[Zprime29]

Thanks for the feedback! It sounds like the tire life on your Lightning is not all that much different than anticipated tire life on my F150 Hybrid. I am almost at 35k now & judging from current tire condition I expect to need to replace them at about 50k miles. I believe the Hybrid weighs about 20% less than the Lightning.

I was told that I would not get more than 10 - 15k miles out of tires on an EV. Does anyone know if that is true for any EV's out there?

Driving style will have a major impact on tread life (as mentioned above about Porsche owners burning through tires). I have 20k miles on my stock tires, plenty of tread still.

 

[Henry Ford]

I was told that I would not get more than 10 - 15k miles out of tires on an EV. Does anyone know if that is true for any EV's out there?

Porsche makes an EV so... probably?

 

[PreservedSwine]

In continuing looking into the purchase of a Lightning, I had someone tell me that tires do not last nearly as long on EV's, as they do on on the gas powered vehicles. I would appreciate any feedback that anyone can give. Is this the truth or just someone who is looking for ways to dissuade EV purchases?

I only have 6k miles on my lighting, but I doubt that’s an accurate statement. It depends on the tires. I put Michelin defender ltx on my f250 diesel, which weighs over 1,000 pounds more than my lighting. I get about 70k miles out of those. Why wouldn’t they last even longer on a truck that weighs 1000 less?

 

[pullinggs]

I was told that I would not get more than 10 - 15k miles out of tires on an EV.

Well, I guess if you try really hard you could eat 'em up that fast. I'm on the OEM tires at ~10K and they still look pretty good. Maybe I should start brake-torquing at every stoplight just to see what I can do.

Seriously, I'm betting ~40K based on my (admittedly minimal) experience. My previous ride was a WRX that I, ahem... kinda hammered on a little bit. It went through a set every 40K, too. Just what you're used to, I guess.

Given how much I'm saving on fuel and maintenance, tires are a minimal concern.

 

[Refactoringdr]

In continuing looking into the purchase of a Lightning, I had someone tell me that tires do not last nearly as long on EV's, as they do on on the gas powered vehicles. I would appreciate any feedback that anyone can give. Is this the truth or just someone who is looking for ways to dissuade EV purchases?

I’m at 40,000 miles on the OEM tires and they don’t need to be replaced yet. For trucks, I have a feeling that the difference in weight is negligible. Probably more important is the surfaces you drive on regularly and how much you enjoy 0-60 in 4s

 

[Newton]

I think it just depends on the tires. I had stock Continental tires on my ICE Q5 that had chunks coming off at 10K miles. They said it was because I have a gravel driveway. I have yet to replace the stock tires on any of my three EVs with the same gravel driveway.

Although EVs are heavier for the same class of car, it is a bit overblown like all of the other 10,000 reasons why we should keep burning oil. The Lightning weighs less than the F-250. My Kia EV6 weighs about the same as a Toyota Sienna. My e-Golf weighs about the same as a Camry. Just for reference.

 

[dajohn3]

I am interested in potentially purchasing a Lightning. Doing research before I buy a truck, I borrowed a demonstrator from my dealer for a day & it gave me bad range anxiety watching how precipitously the charge dropped with cautious gentle around town driving. What is real world use the truck everyday range? The SR truck I was driving has a stated 220 mile range. The Ford tutorial on the truck touchscreen advised not charging above 70% & not discharging below 30% of battery capacity for optimum battery life. That only leaves 40% usable battery capacity & by my math 220 miles of range times 40% is only 88 miles of usable range. Holy cow! Is that true usable range? Am I calculating this wrong? If not, even with the extended 320 mile range battery that only works out to 128 miles of usable range. Surely that is not right. Further, the truck that I drove dropped range faster than it rolled up miles on the odometer.

Just about every week I take a 300 mile round trip through a very rural area. Can I realistically make a 150 mile leg without stopping for a charge along the way? When I reach my turn around there will be no charger, unless I buy it & put it there. How long does it take to charge the battery back up with a 120v outlet?

If I buy a Lightning, I would install a charging station at my primary residence. What charger do you recommend from your experience? How much should I expect it to cost?

I am a Ford guy & a truck guy. I like the idea of the Lightning, but don't want to regret buying it. I would sincerely appreciate any feedback that will help me make a good decision. Thanks in advance for any assistance that you can provide!

Take it from another truck guy that currently owns 2 chevy's (3500 and a suburban) and 2 fords (F150 and an explorer), think twice about taking the leap. I get just under 108 miles of range at 80 percent charge and just over 117 miles with a 90 percent charge going 77 mph with my lightning. I charged my truck at home and the range reading was 234 and charged at 100 percent in Van Horn and the range reading was 185 so what now. Can you go 234 in the city max and if you are where you actually need the range only get 185 max. This disparity in distance is a fact of life with the 98 KW battery pack so if you still want to purchase the F150 lightning only purchase the 131 KW version because you will be a lot happier with your truck. I still believe in EVs as one of the alternatives to gas and diesel but everyone is forgetting that hydrogen fuel cells and biofuels are also a good alternative with less of the headaches than the EV charging and range issues that you have while owning an EV.

 

[RickKeen]

I also stand by my statement that nobody posts I wish I got SR instead of an ER after taking a trip.

Also anything about 70mph will be under 2 miles/kwh

For the price difference of my Pro SR compared to a maxed out Platinum ER, I was able to afford another boat to pull behind it: Affording the wake boat makes me happy to have the SR.
But I have only road tripped twice in the life of the truck, (and one of those was driving it home from an out of state dealer when I first bought it.)

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