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Ultimate Guide to the Changes on the 2025 Ford F-150 Lightning

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So Ford has backed off making the NACS port as part of the vehicle starting in 2025. I wonder what the reason for that decision is.
 

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So Ford has backed off making the NACS port as part of the vehicle starting in 2025. I wonder what the reason for that decision is.
It appears that is the case. Very disappointing. I wonder what the 2025 Mach-E will have for charge port?
 

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Removing the 360 camera from the XlT seems like a mistake to me given how many relatively inexpensive cars have them nowdays. That is a good way to scare off young first time truck buyers which is pretty much going to be your market for an electric pickup with limited range and slow charging compared to the competition. There are other arguably better options now for the higher income consumer.
 

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It appears that is the case. Very disappointing. I wonder what the 2025 Mach-E will have for charge port?
Perhaps Tesla is not as committed to sharing their chargers according to whatever the agreed-to plan was, and therefore Ford is hedging their bets. Adapter works fine.
 

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Removing the 360 camera from the XlT seems like a mistake to me given how many relatively inexpensive cars have them nowdays. That is a good way to scare off young first time truck buyers which is pretty much going to be your market for an electric pickup with limited range and slow charging compared to the competition. There are other arguably better options now for the higher income consumer.
Yeah, I use the 360 camera in my XLT basically every time on park. Can I park without it? Sure! But the cameras sure make it a whole lot easier to get the truck where it needs to be.

I'm disappointed with what seems to be a lot of 'nickle and dime' removals on the newer trucks. Ford is probably doing it to increase the profit margin on each truck, but I wonder if they have considered how these removals may influence sales, especially now that there are more competitors in the market.
 

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I use the securicode panel on the driver's door a lot. I used to use a corresponding securicode panel on my now-gone Mach E all the time as well. I personally choose to not use PAAK as I do not wish to be married to my cell phone.

Moreover, I travel on longer trips with teens and pre-teens, most of whom do not carry phones for a PAAK function. The three boys all LOVE the securicode panel... and based on the two past Summers of camping and travel with active boys, I actually wish Ford would have added the securicode panel on the passenger side as well. No need to always walk around the car(s) on camp sites, and no worries about fobs going missing / broken / wet or fights about sharing a fob, etc.

Yes, I submitted this suggestion to Ford from our Mach E and now also from our Lightning.

Now it seems that Ford has gone the other way and just made the one existing securicode panel an option. Chintzy chintzy chintzy... :facepalm:
 

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Whole lotta nothing. Guess I'll be holding onto mine instead of bumping up into the Lariat unless there is some sort of unknown exterior refresh.
Seems like worse than nothing. Same price but removing features like powered tailgate ... not a good decision.
 

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This has been mentioned in other threads, but I don't think this can be stated loudly enough. The 2025 Flash trim comes with a smaller "extended range" battery. In 2024 the extended range battery for the Flash was 131 kWh, whereas it is 123 kWh in 2025. The extended range batteries in the Lariat and Platinum trims still appear to be 131 kWh. This is a 6% decrease in capacity, and is not clearly mentioned in dealer literature that still refer to it as an "extended range" battery for the Flash trim, using the same nomenclature as for the Lariat and Platinum trims.

This, combined with the loss of the full-sized spare tire and entry keypad make me happy to have a 2024 Flash.
 

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This has been mentioned in other threads, but I don't think this can be stated loudly enough. The 2025 Flash trim comes with a smaller "extended range" battery. In 2024 the extended range battery for the Flash was 131 kWh, whereas it is 123 kWh in 2025. The extended range batteries in the Lariat and Platinum trims still appear to be 131 kWh. This is a 6% decrease in capacity, and is not clearly mentioned in dealer literature that still refer to it as an "extended range" battery for the Flash trim, using the same nomenclature as for the Lariat and Platinum trims.

This, combined with the loss of the full-sized spare tire and entry keypad make me happy to have a 2024 Flash.
The initial batches of '25 Flash trim trucks should have the same 131kWh battery, appears the smaller one is a later release. The window sticker will likely show 300mi range for those.
 
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