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Will it make it?

Winter range commute- will it make it, winter ER?


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Yes, you can do it.

However, your situation doesn't call for an electric truck.

A cheap and efficient car is what you need.
With his ability to use almost free TOU charging at home the Tesla is perfect for him. His efficient Tesla can be charged/replenished all within the cheap charge hours. The Lightning would take 40% longer to replenish for the same miles driven when he uses the same EVSE.

If he bought a 2022 or 2023 Lightning with ER battery and upgraded his EVSE to a 100a/80a he would be able to match the current charge time with his Tesla.
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Why don’t the new models charge at 80 amps? I love being able to come in at any level and know I’ll be full before I have to leave again!
 

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Why don’t the new models charge at 80 amps? I love being able to come in at any level and know I’ll be full before I have to leave again!
The Charger is actually built into the vehicle. The Level 2 EVSE you install at your home only supplies AC voltage to the vehicle's On Board Charger.

The Dual OBC found in all Ford Lightning ER trucks prior to 2024 was an effective 80amp charger and can output 19.2kW. The Single OBC found in the SR trucks and most 2024+ Lightnings is a 48amp charger and can output 11.5kW.

For 2024 only Lightning Pro can be equipped with Dual OBC as an option for Fleet customers.
 

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To lower the costs and because most were not using it.
Here's the full long answer from Grok.
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Ford’s decision to drop the 80-amp charging capability on most 2024 F-150 Lightning models, including the Flash trim, and limit them to 48 amps stems from a mix of cost-cutting, standardization, and practical usage considerations, though Ford hasn’t spelled it out in a single press release. Here’s what’s behind it, comparing the 2024 Flash to the 2022 and 2023 models, based on available data as of February 24, 2025.
For the 2022 and 2023 F-150 Lightnings, Ford included the 80-amp Ford Charge Station Pro (FCSP) as standard with Extended Range (ER) models (131 kWh battery), delivering 19.2 kW of power. Standard Range (SR) models (98 kWh) got a 48-amp (11.5 kW) charger. The 80-amp FCSP could charge an ER battery from 15% to 80% in about 41 minutes on a DC fast charger or fully juice it in 8-10 hours at home, adding 30 miles of range per hour. It also enabled Intelligent Backup Power, turning the truck into a home generator—up to 9.6 kW output for three days. The 2024 models, including the Flash (which comes with the ER battery), shifted to a 48-amp onboard charger across the board, cutting home charging speed to about 11.5 kW, or 19-20 miles per hour for the Flash, and stretching full charge times to 14-15 hours.
Why the change? First, cost reduction. The FCSP was a $1,300 add-on when bundled with ER models, shipped separately after purchase. Facing EV price wars—Ford slashed Lightning prices by up to $10,000 in 2023 amid Tesla’s cuts—they decoupled it to lower the MSRP. The 2024 Flash starts at $67,995, a value play with the ER battery and tech like BlueCruise, but dropping the 80-amp charger trims production costs and simplifies inventory. X posts from [banned site] note Ford stopped including the FCSP with ER builds after mid-2023, suggesting a pivot to optional accessories (buy it separately at chargers.ford.com).
Second, usage data. Ford likely saw most owners didn’t need 80 amps. The average U.S. driver logs 30-40 miles daily; 48 amps (19 miles/hour) covers that overnight on a 240V outlet, even with the ER’s 320-mile range. Forum chatter—like on [banned site]—shows many never pushed the FCSP’s limits, and 60- or 50-amp home circuits are more common than 100-amp setups needed for 80 amps. Retrofitting a house for 100 amps costs $1,500-$3,000, per Qmerit estimates, deterring some buyers. Ford’s betting 48 amps is “good enough” for most.
Third, standardization. The 2024 Lightning’s onboard charger maxes at 48 amps for both SR and ER, unlike the 2022-2023 split (48A SR, 80A ER). This streamlines manufacturing and aligns with other Ford EVs like the Mustang Mach-E, which tops out at 48 amps even on the FCSP. DC fast charging (150 kW peak) stays unchanged—32 minutes for SR, 38 for Flash ER—so the home downgrade doesn’t hit road trippers hard.
Trade-offs? You lose faster home charging and backup power flexibility—48 amps can’t support the full Intelligent Backup system without the FCSP and Sunrun’s $3,895 Home Integration kit (still planned for 2024 availability). Early adopters on forums gripe about the “bait-and-switch” after 2023 ERs shipped with the FCSP promise. But Ford’s play makes sense: lower sticker price, broader appeal, and betting most won’t miss what they rarely used. Want the old 80-amp juice? Buy the FCSP separately—if your garage can handle it.
 

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plug into a 6.2 kw level 2 charger- BUT I leave work in 6 hours +/-
Unit says apx 39 kw sent.
charging at home
His question was if he could do it under these circstances. A long range Tesla would do it. Ioniq 6 or even 5, kia ev6, rivian, etc could do it. The ER lightning could do it.
My point is that a truck is not a good option for commuting efficiently for one person at those distances. A cheap 4 banger car would be better suited.
 

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I would do this in my SR but as others said, you’d want have reliable DC chargers along the route for nasty days or days the L2 charger at work is busy or broken.
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