Power-Up OTA 6.8.0 - Smart Changes: Center Screen

[TheWoo]

Thats what I thought as well. It is different from the Hvb level that is showing on my ford pass app.

Guess we shouldn't be surprised that a Ford app/website feature isn't clear

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[rugedraw]

My fault, I should have spelled out what I was asking more clearly.

@rugedraw and you have access to this system? I would bet almost anything it's due to 12V SoC, despite being relatively high... And it also could be due to weather since it is getting colder in my location.

I do. Just need the VIN.

 

[Maquis]

That sure looks like the level for the HVB, not the 12V...at least, that's what I would have assumed.

It’s definitely the 12V battery.

 

[Lytning]

99% of the time time, OTA's that require vehicle inhibition fail due to low battery SoC. I can confirm with your VIN, but I'm confident that's the reason.

It is really sad when the most dependable "feature" of the OTA update process is failure.

 

[Avocadodude]

Awesome .... I learned something new today!
Thank you @Blochead21

That worked and this is the URL to see the above data
https://www.ford.com/myaccount/?gnav=header-account

While I had been using the Vehicle Dashboard link all along for what is shows in post #84
https://www.ford.com/support/vehicle-dashboard/?gnav=header-account-targetnav

So, my LVB SOC is a little anemic at 72%:

I'm pretty sure this is HVB not 12v. My battery is at 13.8vdc and shows 73% on this page. My HVB is at 72.5% (OBD) and shows 71% on Ford Pass. I think there's a data age issue when Ford is binning this data. I'll charge to 80% and let it sit and see what happens.

Well I'm totally lost now, charging, HVB increasing, 12v still at 13.8VDC and this just dropped 4% to 69%

Also just realized the GOM seems to be recalibrated. I've been 200 mile range at 70% SoC for as long as I can remember.

 

[TaxmanHog]

I'm pretty sure this is HVB not 12v. My battery is at 13.8vdc and shows 73% on this page. My HVB is at 72.5% (OBD) and shows 71% on Ford Pass. I think there's a data age issue when Ford is binning this data. I'll charge to 80% and let it sit and see what happens.

Well I'm totally lost now, charging, HVB increasing, 12v still at 13.8VDC and this just dropped 4% to 69%

I'll agree with you that some of the data on Ford.com is stale, especially the Vehicle Health Report section, wrong mileage on mine.

My trucks current HVB SOC is 89% and the LVB initially showed 72% but later dropped to 67%.

At the moment I'm idling the truck with all accessories & HVAC shut off to see if I can increase the LVB SOC, it's been "running" for 60 minutes and no increase yet, might need to go lower before the strategy & conditions are met for the next boost up.

 

[rugedraw]

@ziptbm See below, VIN blacked out for your privacy. It's failing mostly due to low battery capacity; SoC is not being recorded as very low. SoC was at 89% this morning, but battery capacity is consistently low at 19%. I know some are not fans of BMS resets, but in this case, I would recommend fully charging the battery and resetting the BMS. No need to panic; the OTA trigger is good for 30 days, so you have until 1/11/2023 to get it to go through.

I also suggest you and everyone here to take the time to read through this post by Mach-Lee over on the Mach E Forums. He is very knowledgeable and has some good ideas to get the LVB to a good state for OTA's.

https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/how-to-get-failed-otas-to-install.29749/page-4#post-727968

 

[neririn]

99% of the time time, OTA's that require vehicle inhibition fail due to low battery SoC. I can confirm with your VIN, but I'm confident that's the reason.

This update is driving me nuts. I drive the truck over 2 hours every day, so 12v battery SoC should be as good as it ever gets. Main battery is 90% by the time the update tries to apply at 2:00 AM. I am on failure 10+ due to preconditions not met but every category they state as a possible failure scenario is clear. (truck secure, not fast charging etc)

 

[rugedraw]

This update is driving me nuts. I drive the truck over 2 hours every day, so 12v battery SoC should be as good as it ever gets. Main battery is 90% by the time the update tries to apply at 2:00 AM. I am on failure 10+ due to preconditions not met but every category they state as a possible failure scenario is clear. (truck secure, not fast charging etc)

Read through the post I linked above. @flyin525 messaged me yesterday to look into his failed 6.8.0 OTA. Just like everyone else, it was failing due to the battery conditions not meeting whatever the algorithm Ford set for the updates to install. He tried the fan method of charging and he got it to go through. Maybe he can chime in on his experience here. Not sure if he ended up resetting the BMS or not, but he did message me saying he got it to go through.

 

[TaxmanHog]

Mach-Lees initial post
https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/how-to-get-failed-otas-to-install.29749/

 

[ziptbm]

@ziptbm See below, VIN blacked out for your privacy. It's failing mostly due to low battery capacity; SoC is not being recorded as very low. SoC was at 89% this morning, but battery capacity is consistently low at 19%. I know some are not fans of BMS resets, but in this case, I would recommend fully charging the battery and resetting the BMS. No need to panic; the OTA trigger is good for 30 days, so you have until 1/11/2023 to get it to go through.

I also suggest you and everyone here to take the time to read through this post by Mach-Lee over on the Mach E Forums. He is very knowledgeable and has some good ideas to get the LVB to a good state for OTA's.

https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/how-to-get-failed-otas-to-install.29749/page-4#post-727968

thanks for this. I'll give a few of Mach-Lee's recommendations a try later, starting with BMS.

On a related note, I have done FDRS updates previously myself and have a 12v battery maintainer...is it possible to perform an OTA update with the frunk open for the battery maintainer on? Closing the frunk is listed as one of the "preconditions" so I'm curious how others have managed this for OTA updates.

 

[rugedraw]

thanks for this. I'll give a few of Mach-Lee's recommendations a try later, starting with BMS.

On a related note, I have done FDRS updates previously myself and have a 12v battery maintainer...is it possible to perform an OTA update with the frunk open for the battery maintainer on? Closing the frunk is listed as one of the "preconditions" so I'm curious how others have managed this for OTA updates.

Remember, do not reset the BMS until the LVB is fully charged.

A maintainer is better than nothing, but a few amps is not going to offset the draw produced when the update is installing. Yes, you can leave the charger on while updating and I usually recommend doing so. However, the frunk has to be fully closed. I don't know the Lightning well enough to recommend a way to close it. On my truck, I wedge the wires of my Noco 10amp charger between the headlight and grill and the hood closes fine. I recently bought a 20amp Clore 2320 which I haven't used yet, so I am not sure if the cable is a thicker gauge so I may have to just drop it down through the engine bay to the floor to close the hood. However, that isn't an option for you guys. For sure, the frunk has to be fully closed.

 

[TaxmanHog]

snake an AC line via wheel well to back side of frunk where LVB access panel is located, plug in your charger, clamps to battery +-post and (negative)-post where chassis ground wire connects to the BMS sensor (NOT THE BATTERY POST)

 

[flyin525]

Read through the post I linked above. @flyin525 messaged me yesterday to look into his failed 6.8.0 OTA. Just like everyone else, it was failing due to the battery conditions not meeting whatever the algorithm Ford set for the updates to install. He tried the fan method of charging and he got it to go through. Maybe he can chime in on his experience here. Not sure if he ended up resetting the BMS or not, but he did message me saying he got it to go through.

I used ford.com to monitor the 12v state of charge. I plugged in the truck to the my FCSP and started it fully.

I noticed it was charging it with about 14.5 volts when it was plugged into the wall and about 13.5 volts when it wasn’t, so I left it plugged bin the whole time…took about an hour. Once the ford website showed it was at 90% on the 12V battery I tried installing again and it worked fine.

 

[Labs4Lightning]

Closing in on bc 1.3!

So there is room for a q4 release to someone. We can dream

to quote dumb and dumber “you’re saying I’ve got a chance”

LOL

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