Charge Station EV conversion to $4.50 per gallon @18mpg

[Cvh8601]

I guess it depends on your location and fuel prices. In Canada it costs me half as much to use my f150 lightning as it does my cx-5 on a road trip.

Overall I've cut my fuel cost to a 1/4 of what my old f150 2.7l was using.

What seems to get consistently lost in these cost/mi discussions vs ICE F-150 is that comparing the lightning to an eco boost is not at all 1:1.

for 2024, the higher output eco boost makes at most 2/3 the power and torque of a lightning. The supercharged 5.2L Raptor is the closest competitor (More HP, less TQ than lightning).

That Raptor one gets an EPA 10/15 mpg rating. That Is the comparison point for the lightning. The 60+ MPGe is still massively cheaper than running that monster.

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[Heliian]

lost in these cost/mi discussions vs ICE F-150

Oh ya, all the time. I find it amazing my full size lightning is twice as efficient as a shit box SUV.

However, we also get people saying that the lightning isn't as efficient as a model 3 without realizing one is a huge truck and the other a compact.

 

[B. Lane]

Yep, took a long road trip from Huntsville, TX to Boise, ID and calculated the mileage cost to be about twice what my old 2016 ICE F150 would have cost. But one of the main reasons I bought the Lightning was to be able to power my home with it during power outages and avoid the expense of a generator. I have already used it twice for that purpose in the past year (Generac system as detailed by others in this forum) and it has performed in that capacity beyond my expectations. I'll just use the wife's vehicle (gasoline) for long trips from now on. Love my Lightning so far, except for the uneven tire wear issue. Got 30,000 on the stock tires so far, but will have to replace soon.

 

[Cvh8601]

Did some fun conversion calcs for fun. Used costs typical near me so YMMV:

	Gallon	kWh	$/Gal	$/kWh
Gas	1.00	33.70	$3.50	$0.10
DC Charge	0.03	1.00	$16.85	$0.50
AC Charge	0.03	1.00	$6.07	$0.18
	Mi/Gal	Mi/kWh
Lightning	67.40	2.00
35 MPG Car	35.00	1.04
25 MPG Car	25.00	0.74
Raptor 5.2 (10 MPG)	10.00	0.30
	Gal/Full Pack	kWh/Full Pack
Lightning	3.89	131.00
	$/mi
Lightning AC Charged	0.09
Lightning DC Charged	0.25
35 MPG Car	0.10
25 MPG Car	0.14
Raptor 5.2 (10 MPG)	0.35

Interesting observations:
- Lightning’s “gas tank” is less than 4 gallons of gas
- Lightning is super efficient even compared to a relatively efficient car, and has incredible power, comfort, and cargo capacity to boot
- Lightning road tripping is only going to be cheaper than a fairly inefficient vehicle. However, comfort and cargo capability is still way better than those ‘cheaper’ options.

 

[John Becker]

Is that an Excel file? Can you attach it for download?

 

[Cvh8601]

I did it in Numbers and so had to export to excel. Should work

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