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I feel like none of that is true. I had a model 3 and when I got it there wasn’t even an option for 1-pedal drive…yes you can turn it off. Second, 1-pedal is better for snow. We don’t get much in the south, but I drove mine with summer tires on snow and was fine.
You may feel that way, but controlling braking with the brake pedal is instinctive for people. Many recommend turning off 1 pedal.

As to driving in snow with summer tires, true summer tires like the Pirelli's that come on the Mach-E GTPE should not be driven in temps below 45, forget snow. Rubber gets brittle, cracks, chunks can rip out.
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Normal, turn off one pedal drive. Teslas end up in the ditch because the tendency is to lift off the gas when things start getting hairy, which is why you see so many teslas in the ditch during a good snowstorm. One pedal drive cannot be disabled in a tesla... they're too cheap to come up with a blended braking solution and they're still trying to work out things like panel gaps.
You see so many Teslas in the ditch mostly because Tesla owners don't drive well. :rolleyes: :)

Relative got hit by a Tesla in a parking lot recently. Pulled in, backed out right into relative, then floored it after hitting them due to pushing on the 1 pedal... Totaled the relative's car.
 
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You may feel that way, but controlling braking with the brake pedal is instinctive for people. Many recommend turning off 1 pedal.

As to driving in snow with summer tires, true summer tires like the Pirelli's that come on the Mach-E GTPE should not be driven in temps below 45, forget snow. Rubber gets brittle, cracks, chunks can rip out.
I don’t disagree with you, but we don’t see 45 and under super often so I took the risky choice. Glad I don’t have to worry about that anymore though.

Before I got my first EV I only drove manual vehicles and if it snowed I slowed down with engine braking to help prevent sliding. I think that’s why I prefer 1-pedal and feel more in control with it.
 

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It doesn't snow a lot in NJ anymore but it appears that there may be a storm coming this weekend. I am looking for recommendations for which driving mode to use while driving in the snow. I am not only new to the Lighnong family but to pickups in general so any advice would be helpful.
There are a lot — a lot — of folks who are about to use their Lightnings in the first real snow they’ve experienced. The last three winters have been duds snow-wise for much of North America. I’ve used all sorts of vehicles in snow, and survived so far. Every experience I’ve had in my Lightning, including some ugly hydroplaning situations and black ice, leave me feeling pretty confident that this vehicle will do great in serious snow in normal mode with one-pedal. It’s heavy and well balanced with a very good set of computers moderating the skid of the tires. I love my Lightning!
 

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I don’t disagree with you, but we don’t see 45 and under super often so I took the risky choice. Glad I don’t have to worry about that anymore though.

Before I got my first EV I only drove manual vehicles and if it snowed I slowed down with engine braking to help prevent sliding. I think that’s why I prefer 1-pedal and feel more in control with it.
Worth mentioning that engine braking is not recomended for slowing anymore and has not been so for a good 30 years now. Antilock brakes are so much more accurate and capable that the brakes are a much much better way to slow down.
 

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Worth mentioning that engine braking is not recomended for slowing anymore and has not been so for a good 30 years now. Antilock brakes are so much more accurate and capable that the brakes are a much much better way to slow down.
What IF ..... the ABS processor is capable of not only modulating hydraulic pressure to each caliper BUT modulating the regenerative braking force to complement what it's doing with the friction on rotors?
 

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I’m wondering how bad the stock AT tires are in snow. I don’t really want to spend the money to upgrade my leased truck, nor take the range hit for something else.
 

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Likely counter to most opinions after some hairy slush/ice driving One pedal is off in winter. Also turned off the Hold feature at a stop, on ice I find the trucks are safer to let them roll ahead easing off brake that using the pedal can trigger sliding - this being in worst of ice conditions.

Blizzaks are worth the money, though even without them the truck is best winter vehicle on road. In deep snow it goes until it high centers - just put it in reverse and back out try again.
 

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I’m wondering how bad the stock AT tires are in snow. I don’t really want to spend the money to upgrade my leased truck, nor take the range hit for something else.
Snow they are just fine, have Dyna’s and Grabbers - on Ice Dyna’s < Grabbers no siping on them for Ice traction.

The AWD does a phenomenal job in snow regardless of tire quality - the ABS has its work cut out for it on ICE with stock tires
 

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What IF ..... the ABS processor is capable of not only modulating hydraulic pressure to each caliper BUT modulating the regenerative braking force to complement what it's doing with the friction on rotors?
Oh, for sure. I would expect it would have to. Not so when talking engine braking on an ICE car.
 

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Oh, for sure. I would expect it would have to. Not so when talking engine braking on an ICE car.
My 2 cents: 1-pedal drive / stock tires was excellent in heavy snow on a recent trip through western NY. I didn't get any sense that the regen had any ABS character to it, but in my mind if you're needing ABS in the snow, you've generally made an oops and started stopping too late for the conditions anyway so maybe its there and i didnt cause it to activate. That said, the regen control was super smooth and gradual just like it is on dry pavement and so there wasn't an unexpected behavior.

I was concerned at the outset that it was going to be biased too much to one set of wheels or the other (FWD/AFT) to maintain stability (remember the earlier days of FWD cars, letting off the gas abruptly gave you too much engine braking on the front wheels in the snow and then commence the spin!). The lightning's regen was super stable in the snow conditions.

Of course, there are many types of snow so YMMV, but my experience was A+ so far.
 

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I’m wondering how bad the stock AT tires are in snow. I don’t really want to spend the money to upgrade my leased truck, nor take the range hit for something else.
The stock Goodyear Wrangler Territory HTs are surprisingly (to me) good in the snow. For background, we go up to ME , NH and VT a lot in ski season and I typically have two sets of wheels and tires for each car/truck. I was in VT over the holidays and drove through snow on paved highway and back roads, as well as a steep, winding dirt-covered-by-snow mountain road and was impressed. I parked off-road on a solid grade in 6-8” of uncleared snow in 10F temps and had no issues getting out. I would have no concern with only those tires. The tires on this truck are a great package and unless you are thinking about plowing or ice racing with your Lightning, I don't think you need other tires.

…which is why I am kicking myself. The above observations were made possible because I had not at that time received my winter wheels and Nokian Hakkapelitta R5s. They are now mounted but haven‘t yet seen any snow. They are nice riding otherwise so far. :headbang:
 

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I’m wondering how bad the stock AT tires are in snow. I don’t really want to spend the money to upgrade my leased truck, nor take the range hit for something else.
So far my stock tires have been great in snow, truck handled great. I leased my Lightning in November, I’ve only had a couple snow falls/some ice to try it. Also live in MN.
Mine came with Goodyear Wrangler Territory. Right now I don’t plan to get to get snow tires (I don’t think a lot of people in MN get snow tires when they have all season tires, only if you have summer/performance tires).
 

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What IF ..... the ABS processor is capable of not only modulating hydraulic pressure to each caliper BUT modulating the regenerative braking force to complement what it's doing with the friction on rotors?
In my experience, when the ABS kicks in, regen shuts off. It’s a bit unnerving because it feels like you’ve lost braking for a split second!
 

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In my experience, when the ABS kicks in, regen shuts off. It’s a bit unnerving because it feels like you’ve lost braking for a split second!
I think I've noticed that the rare few times we had snow last year, I'll be ready with foot to cover pedal when we get some actual snow this winter.
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