Range not what is advertised

[Maquis]

How many miles can you actually get out of an SR battery under normal conditions? Has anyone pushed the limits of driving with zero percent battery range and how low does the power level get at this condition?

There are threads on here describing what happens when you drive to 0%.

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[Mcyclonegt]

I feel like Ford has misled us. The sticker in the window says 320, my truck has never even come close. When Hyundai advertised a certain MPG a few years back and a vast majority could not reach it they got sued. If a majority of people can’t achieve the advertised range with normal driving under normal conditions then we have been lied to. Maybe we need to start looking into a class action lawsuit.

 

[RickLightning]

I feel like Ford has misled us. The sticker in the window says 320, my truck has never even come close. When Hyundai advertised a certain MPG a few years back and a vast majority could not reach it they got sued. If a majority of people can’t achieve the advertised range with normal driving under normal conditions then we have been lied to. Maybe we need to start looking into a class action lawsuit.

As discussed over, and over, and over again - it's an EPA formula. MPGs on gas vehicles are similar. If you drive exactly as the formula specifies, you might hit it. In reality, you likely never will.

 

[Peddyr]

I feel like Ford has misled us. The sticker in the window says 320, my truck has never even come close. When Hyundai advertised a certain MPG a few years back and a vast majority could not reach it they got sued. If a majority of people can’t achieve the advertised range with normal driving under normal conditions then we have been lied to. Maybe we need to start looking into a class action lawsuit.

 

[Quibbs]

I do not think I can add much to this thread but I will try. Some of what I will say has already been posted here.

Long short of it is, too many variables. One size does not fit all. ICE vehicles are impacted by most of the same things EVs are. Speed, wind (takes energy to get to and maintain a speed and energy to cut through the wind), temps (batteries operate optimally in a certain temp range). Other things like tire and wheel size, lift kits, etc. all have an impact. Then there is how accurate the onboard systems report actual mileage and energy consumption. Lastly how you drive has a big impact.This is not an all inclusive list either.

With ICE vehicles it mostly goes unnoticed as refueling is everywhere and fast. Plus we have been living with those for over 100 years.

Some EVs actually get more than the EPA ratings (Some Porsche and some Mercedes EVs come to mind). But they too are subjected to the same effects.

 

[RickKeen]

As discussed over, and over, and over again - it's an EPA formula. MPGs on gas vehicles are similar. If you drive exactly as the formula specifies, you might hit it. In reality, you likely never will.

EPA Range of EV's is based on a blend of the range on the EPA "highway" (55%) and "city" (45%) courses and then multiplied by 70%. The EPA highway course has an average speed of only 48 miles per hour and a maximum speed of 60 mph. The EPA City course has an average speed of under 20 MPH with lots of stops and starts with the driving peaking around 30-35 MPH and only one small section at 50 MPH.

Drive like the above and you would get the EPA range with some to spare courtesy of the 70% fudge factor (presuming no hills, no wind, not cold, proper tire inflation, etc).

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