Cost to fill up your Lightning?

[Adventureboy]

Mostly Solar on Net Metering. If my solar doesn't quite make it, I have $0.028 CAD rate 11pm-7am overnight (like 2 cents USD).

When I was a teen (a few years ago), the cheapest I ever filled my Honda Civic was $0.18/litre CAD ($0.502 USD/gallon). It is now less expensive for energy per mile to drive my Lightning than my 1978 Honda Civic on the cheapest day for gas during my entire driving experience.

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[bmwhitetx]

My brother is trying to figure out if he should go on a TOU plan. He doesn't own an EV but it considering one, as he doesn't drive much and it's all city/back highway. @bmwhitetx I might hit you up this weekend after I talk to him and see what kind of information his utility provides. It would be interesting to set up a spreadsheet where he could punch in potential EV usage and see how that might affect the bill on various plans.

Certainly, happy to help!

 

[Jiji]

From what I understand I hear you need an advanced degree to sort out a Georgia Power electric bill.

In most places it is complicated, with my service, the delivery fees are slightly greater than the supply fees so quoting the cost of the energy without including the cost of the delivery and other fees just makes comparisons meaningless. To simplify matters I just like to see the total bill divided by the energy consumed to see the average cost per kWh and take it from there.

And then there is the energy consumed by charging, is it measured at the plug or at the battery? It matters since L2 charging is about ~90% efficient so be sure to adjust your cost accordingly when reporting energy added to the battery.

 

[DJSJOEKS]

Man, I've got it good down here is Georgia. Georgia Power lets you charge between 11pm and 7am for a rate of 2.1 cents per kWh if you are signed up for the "overnight advantage" plan. So basically I can fill up my truck for $2.75 (131 kWh X 2.1 cents equals 275 pennies). Of course that doesn't include the taxes/fees/minimum charge etc. But still, $2.75 to fill a pickup truck so you can drive it 300miles. Crazy cheap. Here is the link for those of you that are local:
https://www.georgiapower.com/reside...-plans/pricing-and-rate-plans/plug-in-ev.html

Hell, even if I charge it during "regular" pricing which is 7 a.m. to 2 p.m. and 7 p.m. to 11 p.m year round I'm only paying 9.8 cents. That mean I can fill up for $12.84.

Just don't charge during on-peak, which is 2pm to 7pm June through Sept. Filling it up would during that timeframe cost 28.6 cents per kW, or $37.47.

Ask any ICE F-150 owner the last time they filled up there truck for less than $40 and they will probably tell you it was the '90's and you have to be talking to somebody older than 40.

When I was in high school in the early 90's the gas station across the street would occasionally run gas at 79 cents a gallon. My VW Bug had a ten and a half gallon tank, which means I could fill it up for $8.30.

Now fast forward 30 years... and I can fill up a truck that can drive itself down the highway, has 580 HP (as compared to the Bug's 40 HP), has A/C, a touch screen almost as big as the TV that was in my parents living room back in the 90's (We had a 19") attached to the dash, all for 1/3 of the cost! That's not even adjusted for inflation! Crazy progress! And yet, people don't want to switch from ICE...I don't understand.

Still, what is everybody else experiencing as far as cost to fill your Lightning? I visited Kirkwood CA and my buddy told me that power out there was running something crazy like 80 cents a kWh. If that was the case, I could see a $105 bill to fill a Lightning, which is about even with ICE. Am I just super blessed to be in Georgia where the power is cheap?

I wish my utility had that low rate. I pay about $.20 per kWh. I do have an advantage though, there are 4 free chargers 2 miles from my house that do not limit how long you use them. I charge about 1 day per week up to 85% while using my wife's ICE vehicle.

 

[rockhead]

Ha you wanna talk casino pricing, BC Hydro recently came out with a 5¢ discount for offpeak 11PM->8AM use BUT you are then committed to a 5¢ surcharge from 4PM->9PM ... are you sure you want the AC on ? Cooking a meal come on ! Laundry ? Are you INSANE ?
My price for 131kWh comes to 19.25 CAD, however, my truck reports 8kw charging my Grizzl-e charger reports 10kw input.
In closing it crunches down 4.55¢/km those you in America will have to work out the conversion to eagles per cheeseburger on your own

 

[SteuLight]

those you in America will have to work out the conversion to eagles per cheeseburger on your own

ROTFLOL

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

It costs me $9.29 to fill the Mustang from 0% to 100% (93.792 kWh, tested and verified with the EVSE energy transfer and including all taxes and fees and rolling some of the on-peak fees into the cost because the billing is never fully transparent). For 320 miles mixed in-town and freeway driving, and 450 miles around town, that's $0.021/mile to $0.029/mile.

For the Lightning, the EVSE is a bit more efficient and it takes about 134 kWh to fill it from 0% to 100%. That's $13.27 to fill it, for a similar 320 miles range, or $0.041/mile.

My Tacoma, when I was being gentle on the accelerator and not towing anything, got 18 miles/gallon. And we had a 5-year local fuel cost average of $3.50/gallon ($73.50/tank). That's $0.19/mile, not counting my time cost to go to the gas station--I value my time at a much higher rate when I'm not on the clock than when I am on the clock. And that's also not counting the far higher maintenance costs to keep the engine running.

 

[THX1138]

I have grid tied solar panels on my garage and it is metered separate from my house. Besides charging my truck, the electricity generated supports a few lights and the garage door opener. The monthly cost has been $19 the last two months, that's maybe 1000 miles or so. As winter approaches, it will probably go up some with less electricity being generated.

 

[Tony Burgh]

In western PA 131*0.215 =$28.16. The 21.5¢/kWh is roughly half generation and half distribution.
Duquesne Light offers a program with reduced rates at night but then jacks up rates during the day. Net result is nada or worst.
So I plug in anytime I need to.

 

[mnastasiuk_flash]

Some Ontario Electric companies have an Ultra-Low Rate schedule that you must register for (not automatic). News Release . At 27 kWh per 100 km my cost would be (27 x 5 x .024) =$ 3.24 plus bill fees. My former F150 XLT cost me roughly $400 a month in gas. My new cost estimate is roughly $16 for the month. Am i happy, damn right !

 

[Bokenator]

Your actual off-peak rate is 6.76 cents/kWh.

Yeah I knew it was more with all the fees and taxes. I don't really count the daily charge of $0.46 cents though, as I am going to be paying that regardless of plan, although you are correct in that I should consider it when bragging about my low power rates as compared to the rest of the USA/Canada. If you use my actual rates calculated below, it took me $0.22 X 131 = $28.82 to fill my truck last month. Still a ton better than gas, which I calculate would cost $47.45 for the same distance assuming $3.15 gallon and 20 mpg, both of which are pretty generous.

What triggered me to switch to the Time of use plan (now called Overnight advantage by GA Power) was the fact that I got a...$1041 power bill. Yep, you read that right. I had a wtf moment, and realized that I was paying ($1041/4841 kWh used) = $0.22 per kWh, even though the max rate taps out at $0.14 on the traditional residential service plan. So about a 50% mark up with all the crap fees and taxes. This got me to looking at alternate rate plans. I was fortunate enough that Georgia Power already had installed a real time meter, so I could see exactly when my energy usage was occurring.

I was already charging my EV and also running my pool pump starting during the early evening or night, depending on the particular day. I charge the EV at night after I get home from kids extracurricular activities because that is when it is home parked in the garage, and I run the pool pump at night so the cascading water can dissipate some heat to keep the water temp in the mid to upper 80's instead of the low 90's. By running it at night instead of day the pool stays about 3-4 degrees cooler. I bet its science.

Anyway, using the real time usage data, I was able to calculate that on the last two bills, I would have saved about $150/bill with no adjustments to my current use/charging patterns. Making some tweaks to my pool pump run times(pushed back 2 hours), EV start charging time (pushed back 4 hours), smart thermostats, etc. I calculate I will save about 30% moving forward. I will have to wait until the year cycles around to get a true apples to apples comparison. I will share those results when I get them.

IF my math is correct, next year's equivalent power bill will only be $700. First world problems. I guess I shouldn't have bought the 5500 sq ft house with 7 tons of A/C, or installed the 29,000 gallon pool. Living large has its costs.

 

[Electric Messiah]

With a large bank of solar panels on our roof here in MA, we're in a program that for selling sun generated electricity back to the grid, we get $120 per month, year round. In addition to selling back, we have a negative electricity bill in the warm months. But living in a drafty old house and partially heating with mini-splits in the cold months (the rest with wood) our excess credit gets used up fairly quickly in the fall with steep bills during the low sun months. The panels though are being paid off with a no interest loan with only a few thousand left to go, so that's also helpful.

In addition, live on a stream, large and active enough to have supported several mills back in the 17th and 18th centuries, including on our property. My dream is to harness that water power once again with a small hydro electric project to generate more electricity to fuel the thirsty Lariat ER, and sell back to the grid. Anybody had experience with mini-hydro projects such as this?

 

[Ry2023]

We have solar here with more than enough panels for house and truck …. I have no idea how much it cost me per charge…( I’m not even sure how to calculate it)…. but it is $.10 per kilowatt from the company here in Pennsylvania…..

 

[TaxmanHog]

Disclaimer: everyone should do their own reading and math to figure out their loss.

I've been tracking this since February, so far I'm averaging about a 9% loss, which is actual metered energy by Emporia remote sensor compared to what Fordpass says was stored in the battery pack.

 

[KurtsRPMGarage]

We pay about $0.21/kWh which for California is very cheap. We do have solar but I got it installed before we added two evs and did not have the foresight to upsize. Our system is 5.9kw and covers about half of our usage. My wife and I drive quite a bit too so the evs represent a major percentage of our electric bill. Of the 1,900kWhs we used in July, about 1,300 of which were from the cars. I would love to upsize our solar but California has since made the payback absolute crap plus the other part of our roof directly faces the street and I know our neighbors wouldn't appreciate it (I'm legally in my right to do so but I rather like my neighbors and would prefer to keep it that way).

Our electric bills range from $150-225 at the moment. Considering we were spending about $900 a month just in fuel with our previous cars (Nissan Titan and Jeep Wrangler), I call that a win.

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