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Maybe we need a post just for this issue?
Maybe, but it seems @Ford Motor Company and Siemens spend more time pointing fingers at each other than trying to fix firmware and server functionality the past year, doesn't generate much confidence that anyone has a clue or desire to look & fix.
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Chris, sounds like you check all the boxes. Your utility talks to the truck somehow to know when you charge ?
Our Virginia utility (Dominion VA Power) gave me a free-to-me secondary electric meter back in 2010 for a dedicated EV-only TOU line under the Obama shovel-ready 2009 era effort. Thank the Lord I applied to this EV home charging pilot program, closed for new accounts in 2018. At the time, my plug-in Prius could only draw 12 amps and the Leviton 240V EVSE only could push 16 amps. So, with this secondary dedicated EV-only electric meter, as long as I charge on that line only between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m., it is a self-managing cheap juice system - no comms back to Dominion Virginia Power needed.

Now, my just-ordered free FCSP will almost fill up our Lightning every night at the lovely cheapo rate of 5.3 cents, or the 7.6 cents on the TOU time window "shoulders" :)... all I have to do is pay for the QMerit installation + circuit line upgrade from 6 gauge to 3 gauge. The install cost will pay for itself within 12 - 15 months based on my charging use since this July when I bought the Lightning, a 2023 XLT ER with its dual chargers under the hood.

I'll keep my regular 40-amp GRIZZL-E hardwired EVSE on the wall and re-route its existing 6 gauge dedicated circuit to the regular house meter for the occasional day charging for my Lightning or a visiting EV at the standard 11 cents residential rate, as our dedicated EV line TOU meter would charge over 17 cents if plugged in between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m.

I do not care to even look at the Ford HIS system. If ever needed, I'll just use the POWER PRO 240V bed receptacle to power key house circuits.
 

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Our Virginia utility (Dominion VA Power) gave me a free-to-me secondary electric meter back in 2010 for a dedicated EV-only TOU line under the Obama shovel-ready 2009 era effort. Thank the Lord I applied to this EV home charging pilot program, closed for new accounts in 2018. At the time, my plug-in Prius could only draw 12 amps and the Leviton 240V EVSE only could push 16 amps. So, with this secondary dedicated EV-only electric meter, as long as I charge on that line only between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m., it is a self-managing cheap juice system - no comms back to Dominion Virginia Power needed.

Now, my just-ordered free FCSP will almost fill up our Lightning every night at the lovely cheapo rate of 5.3 cents, or the 7.6 cents on the TOU time window "shoulders" :)... all I have to do is pay for the QMerit installation + circuit line upgrade from 6 gauge to 3 gauge. The install cost will pay for itself within 12 - 15 months based on my charging use since this July when I bought the Lightning, a 2023 XLT ER with its dual chargers under the hood.

I'll keep my regular 40-amp GRIZZL-E hardwired EVSE on the wall and re-route its existing 6 gauge dedicated circuit to the regular house meter for the occasional day charging for my Lightning or a visiting EV at the standard 11 cents residential rate, as our dedicated EV line TOU meter would charge over 17 cents if plugged in between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m.

I do not care to even look at the Ford HIS system. If ever needed, I'll just use the POWER PRO 240V bed receptacle to power key house circuits.
Unless you really need 80A charging, the FCSP can be deprecated for use on your existing circuit without increasing the wire and breaker.
 

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Unless you really need 80A charging, the FCSP can be deprecated for use on your existing circuit without increasing the wire and breaker.
RGR. At 1st, with the existing 40-amp GRIZZL-E EVSE I didn't even pay attention to the Ford Charge Pro when I bought the Lightning this July.

With the work I do now I am on the road most evenings until midnight or 1 A.M.... and with my dedicated TOU sub-meter I found I was filling the truck up more on house meter current with an old 20-amp EVSEUpgrade standby EVSE during the day at regular electric rates, since the permanent GRIZZL-E EVSE just wasn't sufficient at 40 amps to fill the gigantic Lightning ER battery more than halfway (maybe) on the dedicated TOU circuit before 6 A.M.... and then I started seeing quadruple+ house electric bills brrr... so I read up, on here, about FCPS and realized I could get one for free, and now here we are.
 

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This post is for the new truck owners like me, that may be looking to install a Ford Charge Station Pro and feeling a little bit unsure if that's the right decision. After reading all the threads and horror stories people had with this thing, I was really scared to hook it up.

I installed the FCSP using 3AWG copper wire and 6 solid strand copper for ground. Total run of wire was about 9ft.

I did a conduit install on top of the drywall and utilized a 100A breaker for the circuit.

Using the app to connect the charger to my Wi-Fi was without issue. Worked on the first try. I do have good wifi in my garage as I have an extender out there for the Ring security system.

The first charge after turning it on was strange, it only was going at 1kW and the app showed it was pending a firmware update. I turned off the breaker and double checked all my connections. Flipped the breaker back on and tried again and got 16 kW. Not sure if it was something to do with the pending firmware update, or cycling the breaker that cleared that up.

I left the house for an hour or so and returned, and was surprised the firmware had already updated. I was under that impression that only happens at night or in the early morning.


I take the full cord off the charger each time I use it, and I have had zero faults or charges interrupted due to any kind of overheating so far.

I absolutely love how quick it is. Utilizing the full 80A right now.


Again, just wanted to share my experiences and report how the charger seems to be behaving in 2024. Perhaps some software updates or something has made it better since originally and all the bad overheating issues.





*I have not had a charge session longer than 3hours yet
Thank you for that information! 3 hours would be great. I have a 40 amp charger and it takes me 10-12 hours. DId you have any issues with having a big enough breaker to handle the 80 amps plus your other appliances in the house? I have a 200 amp breaker for 4000 square foot house. So I would have to upgrade my panel to get a 80 amp charger since that only leaves 120 amps left for the house.
 

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Thank you for that information! 3 hours would be great. I have a 40 amp charger and it takes me 10-12 hours. DId you have any issues with having a big enough breaker to handle the 80 amps plus your other appliances in the house? I have a 200 amp breaker for 4000 square foot house. So I would have to upgrade my panel to get a 80 amp charger since that only leaves 120 amps left for the house.
You have a 2024 so upgrading to an 80 amp EVSE would be a waste of money since your truck is limited to 48 amps regardless.
 

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You have a 2024 so upgrading to an 80 amp EVSE would be a waste of money since your truck is limited to 48 amps regardless.
Who told you that? The 2024 has a free 80 amp charging station that comes free with the truck.
 

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Who told you that? The 2024 has a free 80 amp charging station that comes free with the truck.
Ford has ceased to equip 2024 trucks with the dual 40-amp chargers inside the truck. Now the truck's charger component is limited to 48 amps.
 

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It comes with the FCSP which is capable of up to 80 amps but requires a vehicle that supports it. Ford got rid of the dual on-board chargers that 22-23 Extended Ranges had so the 24's only have a single charger and are limited to 48 amps. There's a reason the Ford Power Promise only includes a 60 amp circuit (fcsp set to 48 amps).
 

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Hum, to my understanding the charging unit is in the chord not the truck. I have not tried it yet but i guess I will cross that barrier when I get to it. I know I just read a thread where a guy bought a 2024 lighting and had a procharger installed in his garage and it worked fine. I guess I have call FORD confused now.
 

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Hum, to my understanding the charging unit is in the chord not the truck. I have not tried it yet but i guess I will cross that barrier when I get to it. I know I just read a thread where a guy bought a 2024 lighting and had a procharger installed in his garage and it worked fine. I guess I have call FORD confused now.
It's just semantics really. Some have a fit if you call what's on the wall a charger but that's how the average person is going to think of it. Technically the charger is in the truck. What you have on the wall is just a fancy power supply (EVSE- Electric Vehicle Supply Equipment) and the truck takes that power and converts it from AC to DC to charge the batteries. The FCSP is capable supplying a wide range from 6A to 80A so it will work with any Lightning or EV that uses CCS and supply whatever the EV requests up to whatever the max it has configured. In this case, 22/23 ERs can request the full 80 amps while a 24 ER can only receive 48 amps. There are unicorn 2024 fleet ordered Pro ERs out there that can be ordered with dual on-board chargers and can receive the full 80 amps. Haven't seen/heard of one but I'm sure they exist. Just aren't available to the average Joe.
 

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You do know a power supply converts AC to DC. according what you told me the fast chargers that provide 178 kilowatts would not work. if the truck will only provide 48 amps. Are you sure you know what you are talking about.
 

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Maybe fancy extension cord would be better comparison lol. Tesla and EA are a whole different animal when compared to your home and supply DC directly at up to 500 amps. Install an FCSP at your home and let us know how it goes. I'll bet $1 million that you only get 10-11kW v 17-18kW that I get with my 23.
 

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Well known here that the 2024 Lightnings will only charge a max of 48 amp on AC (home charging).

That was a model change that FORD made.

Most 2022 and 2023 Lightnings can charge up to 80 amp on AC.

On Fast DC Chargers (not home available) they all charge much faster.
 

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Ok, thanx for the info. save me some time and money!
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