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I always charge to 100% , this is a standard range battery.

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In warm weather, it will be better. And the more local driving you do, the higher the number.
 

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I've seen this anomaly, too, but always disregard this 'good news' as nothing that will hold water, unless you are downhill and in slow traffic.
I also disregard any 'less than' range that sometimes shows, too... I always default to what I KNOW... my 'average' mi/kwh for my driving, times my SOC Battery at any given moment...
 

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This isn’t your range - it’s some wild (and obviously wrong) guess at what your range will be. Want to know how far you really will go? Just use your battery % and ABRP. City or highway. Flat or massive elevation change. Speeding or not (be sure you put that into your settings). ABRP will give you a very good prediction of your arrival SOC and hence your true range.
 

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Mine has been very optimistic lately, last 90% charge had a range of 315 miles [ER], my recent driving pattern has been mostly non-highway.
 

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I'm curious, how many of us was as obsessed about the "Distance to Empty" meter in our ICE vehicles as we are about the range guesstimate in our EVs? I'm wondering if Ford is doing itself a disservice by having it front and center like it is.
 

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I'm curious, how many of us was as obsessed about the "Distance to Empty" meter in our ICE vehicles as we are about the range guesstimate in our EVs? I'm wondering if Ford is doing itself a disservice by having it front and center like it is.
I’d turn it off, if I could!
 

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I pretty much ignore the guess-o-meter range anxiety instigator, because I have been driving a 2012 Leaf since Dec 2011 and am used to seeing things like leaving home with 50 mile range estimate, going to the store all level driving, obeying the speed limits and using regenerative braking maximally, and getting home to find my range is now 52 miles - wow, magic!

Forget the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics, we're driving magical EVs that defy physics!?

It takes some getting used to so new-to-EV driver can be forgiven for the anxiety or excitement the guess-o-meters induce.
 

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I pretty much ignore the guess-o-meter range anxiety instigator, because I have been driving a 2012 Leaf since Dec 2011 and am used to seeing things like leaving home with 50 mile range estimate, going to the store all level driving, obeying the speed limits and using regenerative braking maximally, and getting home to find my range is now 52 miles - wow, magic!

Forget the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics, we're driving magical EVs that defy physics!?

It takes some getting used to so new-to-EV driver can be forgiven for the anxiety or excitement the guess-o-meters induce.
Did you get your Leaf battery replaced under warranty? I’m surprised to hear of 1st gen still on the road. The EV club I was part of back in 2013 had a few Leaf owners and they were all on the list for a battery replacement.
 

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I always charge to 100% , this is a standard range battery.

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Welcome to EV ownership!

This is normal optimism. The true test is if you report back with over 250miles of actual travelled range vs displayed on your SR!
 

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I've seen this anomaly, too, but always disregard this 'good news' as nothing that will hold water, unless you are downhill and in slow traffic.
I also disregard any 'less than' range that sometimes shows, too... I always default to what I KNOW... my 'average' mi/kwh for my driving, times my SOC Battery at any given moment...
Exactly. My average mi/kwh X SOC. That's all I use.
 

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I'm curious, how many of us was as obsessed about the "Distance to Empty" meter in our ICE vehicles as we are about the range guesstimate in our EVs? I'm wondering if Ford is doing itself a disservice by having it front and center like it is.
There's a lot more reason to obsess over this in an EV. Not in town, where I rarely use 70% of my battery in a day and there are DCFC options everywhere. But on trips in ICE, there are gas stations everywhere, and I never worry about being stranded. Road trips in an EV often involve a focus on charging enough to make it to the next charger, and not getting accurate info from the vehicle could leave you calling a tow truck, especially in an EV.

Often to get places from Phoenix, the first leg of your trip is to Flagstaff. It's only 143 miles from my house to the EA charger in Flagstaff, but it's also more than a mile in elevation climb and a high speed limit where you are absolutely an asshole for driving 65 most of the way. There are no DCFC options along the way, the one Tesla SC is a V2. Once you are out of Phoenix, it's Flagstaff or a tow truck. In an SR, in winter I wouldn't attempt it. With an ER it was dicey and only done by drafting bobtails for a great deal of the trip and keeping the cabin heat low or intermittent. There is one option, that's to reroute through Sedona, adds 5 miles and 30 mins to the total drive time and it's a lot more 2-lane highways and winding roads. You have to make the call at 2/3rds of the drive to Flagstaff if you have the juice to get there. An accurate GOM is crucial to that decision. I'd also say that if it can't be accurate, it needs to be pessimistic. What we currently have is optimistic, and I think that's dangerous.

I'm sure there are other areas where you similarly need accurate info. I'm about to drive to San Diego. El Centro is the last charger on the way until El Cajon, and there's a 4,400 ft mountain to climb. then it's about 4,000 ft down to El Cajon. If you make it to the top of the mountain, you can coast to the beach. accurate information in El Centro lets me know just how long I have to hang out there. The charger is in the parking lot of a bank, a quarter mile from a shitty convenience store and it's about 120F in the summer.... I don't want to stay there any longer than I absolutely have to.

More ubiquitos charging locations solves this, but until we have them, we have to either trust the GOM or do the math constantly.
 

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I charge to 80% daily.
My gom estimates once battery reaches 80 SOC seem based on recent driving habits.
Depending on how I drive, or conditions, i can manipulate it to display between 160 to 220.
The meaning of this? No meaning at all as far as I can tell.
 

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I'm curious, how many of us was as obsessed about the "Distance to Empty" meter in our ICE vehicles as we are about the range guesstimate in our EVs? I'm wondering if Ford is doing itself a disservice by having it front and center like it is.
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