F-150 Lightning to gain access to Tesla Superchargers! Get standard NACS port starting 2025!

[Adventureboy]

How much with Musk charge for the NACS to CCS adapter capable of a couple of hundred KW? I expect that will be a pricey option for us and Musk will be lining his pockets.

Hope Ford makes a retrofit connector if this takes off.

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[scottf200]

His wording also seems to imply a preference for replacing CCS with NACS as he repeatedly talks about using adapters to take advantage of both types of chargers.

 

[Pioneer74]

How much with Musk charge for the NACS to CCS adapter capable of a couple of hundred KW? I expect that will be a pricey option for us and Musk will be lining his pockets.

Hope Ford makes a retrofit connector if this takes off.

Farley said all current Ford EV customers will be mailed the adaptor.

 

[GDN]

How much with Musk charge for the NACS to CCS adapter capable of a couple of hundred KW? I expect that will be a pricey option for us and Musk will be lining his pockets.

Hope Ford makes a retrofit connector if this takes off.

Well for the nerfed charging Ford gave us to start with he doesn't need a "couple of hundred kW" because our trucks with huge batteries can't take advantage of that. They need 170.

Second you don't need the adapter nor to spend money for it, nor do you need to worry about Musk's money as you can continue to use all the wonderful chargers you have access today - no one is asking you to use Tesla's network.

Third - it has already been noted by Farley this morning and reported in this thread - it sounds truly as if the adapter will be sent to all existing owners when they are ready free of charge.

It has already taken off - no looking back and likely the best thing Ford could have ever done for their EV sales.

 

[Heliian]

Tesla opened up this standard well before mach-e or lightning were launched

No, they opened it up in November of 2022.

Long long after either model was designed, built and sold.

 

[F150ROD]

Well for the nerfed charging Ford gave us to start with he doesn't need a "couple of hundred kW" because our trucks with huge batteries can't take advantage of that. They need 170.

Second you don't need the adapter nor to spend money for it, nor do you need to worry about Musk's money as you can continue to use all the wonderful chargers you have access today - no one is asking you to use Tesla's network.

Third - it has already been noted by Farley this morning and reported in this thread - it sounds truly as if the adapter will be sent to all existing owners when they are ready free of charge.

It has already taken off - no looking back and likely the best thing Ford could have ever done for their EV sales.

Agreed, there really is no CON for Ford owners. It’s just more options with more ease of charging.

I mean we could even start talking about Tesla also making the FCSP instead of Siemens……

Software Improvements was also talked about, OTA update help from Tesla…..

 

[BoomerRocco]

Yep, I saw that. I tried to be clear that my comment was based on Farley's wording - and his preference - but I guess I missed the tone. But I wasn't saying this is definitely the way it is going to happen. If Ford was definitely keeping both, he would not have repeatedly mentioned adapters for future vehicles.

Unfortunately, this tweet is just as noncommittal one way or the other, though I hope they keep both.

 

[Prime8]

Farley said all current Ford EV customers will be mailed the adaptor.

No company is perfect and Ford has had its missteps with the Lightning for sure but my overall experience has been fantastic. Ford making this move with doubling charging access in 6 months is a game changer. If they give us that added capability for free {which it looks like they will} then they deserve even more kudos imo.

 

[PatchesPal]

I'll believe it when it happens. Musk has a history of over promising and under delivering.

Agreed but hopefully Farley was smart enough to get a signed contract before announcing.
This should take a lot of the anxiety out of road trips.
I assume the adapter will also be an extension cord because the Tesla cords will not reach the lightning port now.

 

[ivan256]

It seems to be taken for granted that NACS is better…. But it’s a worse connector electrically, and is rapidly becoming the less common.

This is a big win for Tesla, who were looking to be stuck with an otherwise proprietary connector in a standards based world. But I’m not sure it’s as great as people seem to think for future Ford customers. In fact I think this is really bad for everybody except current Tesla owners, as now we should expect the charging market to be fragmented for a longer period.

 

[Maquis]

No, they opened it up in November of 2022.

Long long after either model was designed, built and sold.

I thought it was earlier in 22, but your point stands nevertheless.

 

[jimfigler]

Let’s just hope they start making stations more truck friendly

 

[ivan256]

Agreed, there really is no CON for Ford owners. It’s just more options with more ease of charging.

I mean we could even start talking about Tesla also making the FCSP instead of Siemens……

Software Improvements was also talked about, OTA update help from Tesla…..

The con will be that CCS chargers will be the majority of the stations and Ford owners will require an adapter to use the most common chargers. As of now nobody but Tesla is planning to make an NACS charging network. But multiple competitors will have larger networks than Tesla in the next 5-10 years.

 

[queuewho]

I think this is really bad for everybody except current Tesla owners, as now we should expect the charging market to be fragmented for a longer period.

It all depends on how the rest of the industry reacts to today's news.

 

[ivan256]

It all depends on how the rest of the industry reacts to today's news.

That's true.

Though I'll be shocked if VW/EA changes course. And that's who will be the biggest impediment to unifying on NACS.

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