This You? Ford F-150 Lightning Crashes Into 7 Cars At Michigan Car Wash

[Runaway Tractor]

Also remember it is called collision avoidance, not collision impossible. It is certainly possible to simply Leroy Jenkins into whatever situation you want even with the safety systems enabled.

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[Daragh]

Similar incident happened here in NC at my daughters gym a year or two back, Tesla Model 3 parked in a spot in front of the gym, driver hit the accelerator and drove through the front wall / window. She swore she hit the break, I can't say for certain what she did but it's unlikely. Same here my guess is they were in one pedal mode allowed the brakes to activate by removing foot from accelerator then punch the accelerator in error. At least nobody was injured (that I know of), can always replace and fix cars and trucks.

 

[reffahcs]

Similar incident happened here in NC at my daughters gym a year or two back, Tesla Model 3 parked in a spot in front of the gym, driver hit the accelerator and drove through the front wall / window. She swore she hit the break, I can't say for certain what she did but it's unlikely. Same here my guess is they were in one pedal mode allowed the brakes to activate by removing foot from accelerator then punch the accelerator in error. At least nobody was injured (that I know of), can always replace and fix cars and trucks.

And it's only compounded by the amount of instant torque that EV's have compared to most (not all) ICE vehicles.

 

[Revenge]

At the risk of making myself look stupid I was lazy and decided to turn on cruise control in a drive through once for all the stop and go. When we got to a turn in the drive through and the car in front moved out of the way, the auto hold resumed the truck tried to accelerate quickly, even thought I had the speed setpoint real low (can't remember the exact number). Had to slam on the brakes. Got an ear full from the wife. Needless to say I will never be doing that again.

 

[TaxmanHog]

These experiences convince me that I will turn off ACC/BC when exiting highway/freeway conditions, local roads should be fully human controlled!

 

[bmwhitetx]

Bad way to find out that not only can you tow 10,000 pounds, you can push that much also.

It threw that 4800# Sienna around like it was nothing.

 

[LazyLightningATX]

Looks to me like pedal confusion. Truck moves forward a bit, then kinda stutters and then really takes off. Like driver wasn't expecting to move forward, then freaked and mashed the accelerator down. The computer will have all the info! Wonder if there will be a followup at some point?

 

[LazyLightningATX]

This was brought up on the reddit thread, but would continuing to mash accelerator override collision avoidance? Just yest morning on the way to work a car nearly fully stopped at a speed bump ahead of me and I guess the truck decided i was not slowing down fast or soon enough (I was def on top of it, but anyway) and absolutely MASHED the brakes and jolted me to a full stop throwing all my stuff onto the floor in the back seat. Seemed like power to throttle was cut along with it, but I did take my foot off immediately and did not try to mash it back down. what would have happened if I had mashed back down?

 

[RickLightning]

It's incredible how much force it hit because it was starting from zero and only accelerated for a second.

You would think that the collision avoidance system would've hit the brakes before making impact.

If it was on and it didn't break, that's what I'd call a big bug.

I'll bet ACC was engaged and, because of the curve where he had been stopped, did not detect anything in front of the truck. It then accelerated attempting to get back to set speed. AEB didn't detect the vehicle ahead because the overcorrected angle of the front wheels or too little time/too much acceleration.

@Amps I agree.

brake...

It's discouraging reading these types of responses. People need to understand what AEB does and does not do.

1) System does not operate during hard acceleration.

2) The system is active at speeds above 3mph. So, from that stop, the person pushes on the pedal and boom, too soon, done.

3) The system is designed to help reduce the impact speed by preparing the brakes for rapid braking. The system does not automatically apply the brakes. If you press the brake pedal, the
system could apply additional braking up to maximum braking force, even if you lightly press the brake pedal.

4) The system MAY activate if the system determines that a crash is imminent.

 

[KeyWestEViking]

Another PEBCAK ( Problem Exists Between Chair and Keyboard ), but in this case, PEBCAS (Steering Wheel). SMH.

My co-workers and I call it a COBRAS problem. Concern Occurs Between Roof And Seat

 

[Maxx]

It's incredible how much force it hit because it was starting from zero and only accelerated for a second.

Imagine being in an Aptera surrounded by Rivians, Lightnings and Cybertrucks with drivers on their smart phones.

 

[Maxx]

These experiences convince me that I will turn off ACC/BC when exiting highway/freeway conditions, local roads should be fully human controlled!

There are two ways to look at it. Aside from this incident generally speaking when the software goofs at low speed, damage could be less severe than at highway speed but city driving is more complex with higher chance of booboos.

Elon just dropped FSD pricing. I wonder if it means it is more difficult than he hoped.

I like the safety and convenience of it when my truck does the thinking for me but it is really frustrating when we disagree.

 

[potato]

My co-workers and I call it a COBRAS problem. Concern Occurs Between Roof And Seat

So I can get a convertible, and eliminate that whole class of problems! Sounds great.

 

[Randall Stephens]

Watch the brake lights. They are not on when the first crash occurs and then are intermittent. Impressive that they got it on the side…

 

[Yellow Buddy]

I'll bet ACC was engaged and, because of the curve where he had been stopped, did not detect anything in front of the truck. It then accelerated attempting to get back to set speed. AEB didn't detect the vehicle ahead because the overcorrected angle of the front wheels or too little time/too much acceleration.

ACC engages for me accidentally more frequently than I would like. I’m not even quite sure how. I don’t use it often enough to have left it on, and I don’t think I’ve hit the button..but apparently I do.

Definitely more than one occasion where it’s surged only for me to slam on the brakes then look down to see it’s activated.

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