Announcing: Expanded Charge Settings – Take Control of Your Charge

[queuewho]

It's not complicated to program this.

if ( location is saved ):
charge_limit = location->chargeLimit
else
charge_limit = global->chargeLimit

Yep some combination of the two would work fine. Either that, or have people choose which way to make it work. I personally would move to the global setting, though it would be nice if it defaulted to 80% like it did in my Tesla when plugged into fast charge.

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[Brons2]

@Ford Motor Company, these features are going across all model years of the Lightning correct?

My initial thought that there isn't any hardware limitations so it would be efforts of firmware and software. Can you guys please clarify in your communications and going forward?

The Mach-E got different hardware and BC 1.5 for the 2025 model year, do we know if the hardware is the same on the 2025 Lightning?

 

[Firn]

Dude, you were being condescending! Calling out people that are old is a dick move.

You do realize I didn't "call out" people who are old, right? My statement was that many here are complaining like they are just grumpy old men.

 

[Brons2]

Dude, you were being condescending! Calling out people that are old is a dick move.

yer old! neener neener neener!

wait, what's that you say? I'm old too?

Oh.

guess you're right. (gen-Xer here)

 

[TaxmanHog]

Kids .... [/boomer]

 

[ryun]

Okay, you don't have to say if these updates are coming to 22-24 MY Lightnings @Ford Motor Company ...

Just blink twice if the update is coming to older trucks. Your secret is safe with me. Promise.

 

[luebri]

Okay, you don't have to say if these updates are coming to 22-24 MY Lightnings @Ford Motor Company ...

Just blink twice if the update is coming to older trucks. Your secret is safe with me. Promise.

I for one would be way happier if we got the updates the 2024's got vs the 2025 updates. Namely Generator mode and Charge rate display on Drivers Display.

 

[ryun]

I for one would be way happier if we got the updates the 2024's got vs the 2025 updates. Namely Generator mode and Charge rate display on Drivers Display.

Same, but both would be good.

 

[sd25]

@Ford Motor Company great to see these improvements!

These are features we've been missing compared to what Tesla and Rivian have been offering. Hoping they're rolled out to us in a timely manner.

 

[BennyTheBeaver]

Who was responsible for that feature addition? Thats totally stupid....
Charge curve falls off at 80% on DC charging, so it normally makes sense to stop there, unless you're going through a charging desert... then your going higher.
AC... every day charging, most people are in the 80-95% range...
Combining them under 1 global slider is.... pretty par for the course for you guys.

I actually think the feature is mostly fine how the changes have been made.

You are correct that DCFC does slow down at 80%. To me, though, a target charge for DCFC seems mostly pointless. Why would someone actually want it to stop before 80% via a target charge (without hitting the unlock button or stopping the session on the station/apps)? I can't think of a reason why. The charge curve handles itself, slows it down, and when you get back or choose to stop on your own...you stop the charge session. If you have a DCFC target charge of 70%, I believe you will get idle fees if your vehicle stops your charge session before you've returned (and the grace period expires), just like you'll get idle fees when the charge session eventually stops at 90% or 100% (depending on what the station/charge network is configured for). Also, I think more and more DCFC Stations won't charge past 90%, it will stop the charge session and charge you idle fees after the grace period.

If you have that slider set to anything above 80% it's (essentially) irrelevant for DCFC, and I think it should be. I just want DCFC to go as fast as possible until I say stop or I hit 80-90%. I'm struggling to find a use case (aside from sticking to a strict budget) of why you'd want to have a target charge of less than 80% at a DCFC. However, if someone can figure out that use case, now we have an option to use it.

Now, where I see a potential issue, is the small portion of people that have their AC target charge to less than 80%. In reality, to raise the target charge for the DCFC session we're talking about opening the app on the screen, navigating to the correct screen and sliding the slider (if your Home/Work one time charge and the DCFC are vastly different).

Is there a Push Notfication from the FordPass app when you hit 80% on DCFC? I can't remember. If not, there should be.

 

[TechnoSwiss]

48A @ 208v is 10.0kW (and pretty rare to be on 208...)

208V is fairly common if you're charging at a commercial building that's running on 3-phase and pulling 2-phase for the charger, like say at work.

 

[detansinn]

Hey @Ford Motor Company, does this update have anything to do with my app no longer being able to provide a charging estimate for my 2023 Lariat ER? It was working fine a couple of days ago.

 

[Firn]

Hey @Ford Motor Company, does this update have anything to do with my app no longer being able to provide a charging estimate for my 2023 Lariat ER? It was working fine a couple of days ago.

That has been discussed here quite a few times

https://www.f150lightningforum.com/...harging-completion-time-not-showing-up.24441/

They also point out that this thread is about 2025 trucks, as highlighted by many of us with older trucks asking if we will get this...

 

[GDN]

I for one would be way happier if we got the updates the 2024's got vs the 2025 updates. Namely Generator mode and Charge rate display on Drivers Display.

I just found this thread today and was on page 4/4 and couldn't believe someone hadn't noted this. The older trucks still don't have the SW that Farley specifically said we'd get from the '24's.

So no - my gut says we'll likely never see these updates. Ford has surprised me once or twice, but they've failed us many more times than they've ever surprised us.

I'm sure Ford is making it harder on themselves too by doing stupid things like encrypting the traffic across the busses. Yeah - I'm about safety but it's not like anyone is tapping into a Ford truck. So Ford - leave the stupid BS behind (all the encrypting did was cut off people trying to make 3rd party products for your owners) and focus on delivering some add on value. Its software, most high schoolers and college kids could likely deliver it for you.

 

[Maineiac12]

I just found this thread today and was on page 4/4 and couldn't believe someone hadn't noted this. The older trucks still don't have the SW that Farley specifically said we'd get from the '24's.

I said it on page 2 while being chastised for having the audacity to be upset at the situation.

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